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2nd fish! Any better than 1st?

Discussion in 'Fish Taxidermy' started by Jwhargro, May 18, 2017.

  1. My 2nd fish I'm currently working on. 9lb. LM. Need you guys to tell me if there's any improvement from 1st fish(spotted bass). Once again I can take it so let me have it!!!!!!



  2. rogerswildlife

    rogerswildlife Rogers Wildlife Taxidermy Tommy Rogers

    Good job on your second fish ! I've seen some guys been doing fish for years that don't look that good . Always study good reference when working on anything is the best advice for you . Your doing great keep at it and have fun !
    Tommy ....

  3. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    You're getting there. The color is a bit pale but the thing I noticed most is the positioning of the caudal fin as well as it's shape. The tail seems a bit over extended and most fishermen want there fish to look long. The shape is off as there's usuall a divot in the center of the tail edge.
  4. Ok thanks fellas. I've been wanting to specialize in fish taxidermy since I was a kid. I really do enjoy the challenge of trying to mimic a live fish. Thanks again for the tips. Like I said 2nd fish so I don't expect it to be awesome would like to one day get there though. I'll send pics of finished work. Will say the fish had been sitting in freezer for 2 years in a trash bag, was frost bit pretty bad. Thanks again. Oh this will be finished mount just gotta get em painted![​IMG]
  5. mopsrdrawer67

    mopsrdrawer67 Member

    They are great. It was commented that your bass looks a little 'pale' in color. I like em a little darker myself, but I get some farm pond bass that a very pale right when you catch them., almost 'dead' looking, with almost non-existent markings. I may be wrong, but I think that might be related to water temps. I always ask the customer if he wants it darker or not.
  6. You're doing great. Fin positioning needs corrected, but you're doing fine.

    I can't wait to see the last pictures finished. The bottom fish with the barely open mouth looks insanely cool.

    Keep posting.

  7. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    That is a bad ass looking fish on the bottom.
  8. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    You have a great eye for the details and your first two fish look better than most anybody's first mounts that I have seen. Keep up the good work and yes, I too like the closed mouth bass!

    The bland colors (and lack of skin tones) as mentioned jump out the most for me. Looks like you whited the skin mount out before painting? Some folks do that with their skins and that's fine if it works for you. But, if you're going to white it out, then you're going to want to antique your skin mount prior to painting just like you would a replica. For example, if you look at your belly spots they look painted mostly because of the stark, white background. If you had some skin tones behind there, these spots would blend much better I think.

    Speaking of the closed mouth bass (and the other one in that pic), I see a significant improvement over your first fish. Of course most will see the most improvement in their first few mounts as they learn. But, I'm seeing a pretty good jump. Again, I think you "have it"!! You're seeing things that many never see...
  9. Thanks again guys for your input. Both bass happened to be farm pond bass. That's my biggest challenge right now is painting. I did white out the fish before painting & tried the paint schedule I found on here by "Cole". I'm really trying to achieve some depth but can't quite get there. Any help with that would be greatly appreciated.
  10. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    The fact that I could tell it was whited out should say something. Why not try painting the other way w/o whiting out? You may like it! Or, again, if you antique your skins after whiting out you will get much of that depth to start with that you're looking for.
  11. This is what majority of the fish caught in our area look like.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
  12. I will try that FishArt thanks. Maybe I'll have them done by the end of the weekend. Will post some pics if so.
  13. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    Just one thing to add: Where you fill in caudal fin gaps try and model in the rays that are missing with whatever you are using to build up your shrinkage. Pay close attention to the adjoining rays. It's not difficult. Then white out the entire caudal fin and paint from there.
  14. What you think about paint job? [​IMG]
  15. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    Looks pretty good. I think the biggest thing that stands out is your whites are too stark in the belly area and it looks like you brought them up too far into the body. And/or your greens/yellows/gold body colors aren't brought down far enough. Same problem as before really where the lower spots are up against a pure white background. I think you need less contrast here. JMO...
  16. Could I spray light bass green over the mid & belly section to blend things in or what are your suggestions?
  17. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    Sure can! But, not so fast. Hitting it with green over that white will leave you with a lime green Billy Bass!!! Many different ways to approach, but if it were me - at this point I would sort've antique those mid to lower scales first maybe with some very thinned black. If you want to do this I would first seal what you have with a decent coat of lacquer based sealer/gloss. Dry. Then, hit the mid,lower section with the thinned black at a downward angle lightly to catch the tops of some of the belly side scales too. If you antique too much, or get too far down with the paint, don't worry b/c you can always add some white to touch up here too. Then let the black set up/dry a few minutes and lightly follow with some careful 00 steel wool - working in sections. You really need that depth and this will help in the mid and lower sections. Then, come over the top/mid-section lightly with your thinned dark green. Versus light green on a light background really will be too lime. Just thin your darker green and go easy. Building up and being careful not to get too dark. If you do or wish to add more depth, you can lightly rub the green areas with the steel wool and seal. Lastly followed by White Pearl for the belly shot letting the pearl "splash" into the lower markings to help blend. Note: You could also add some brass/greenish (very light) scale tips "below" those current lower spots as well if it needs it. If the antiquing doesn't cut it. This would be done of course before the belly white touch ups and white pearls at the end.

    There's an infinite amount of ways to achieve similar results here and this is just one way! Good luck!
  18. Ok good I will attempt it. Thanks for the help, it is much appreciated!
  19. den007

    den007 Active Member

    Keep it subtle, but warm it up with a hing of pink around the gill area, anus, anal fin butt, etc........and you will be surprised!
  20. Enough black or more, before steel wool.[​IMG][​IMG]