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Yox nose pad Grey -vs- Candy Paynes Grey

Discussion in 'Deer and Gameheads' started by Jason L, Jun 6, 2017.

  1. Jason L

    Jason L New Member

    Am I dumb or is yox nose pad Grey and candy Paynes Grey the same darn thing? I just don't see a guy picking a color and adding his name to it and calling it his own color but hey who knows? I've used both with great results....the same results.
  2. dcooper

    dcooper Member

    Maybe Bill will make a post on this, but I find the Candy Paynes gray to be more blue.

  3. JerseyJays

    JerseyJays Well-Known Member

    Re: Yox nose pad Grey -vs- Candy Paynes Grey

    Never used either of them. But I believe "candy" colors are somewhat transparent?

    I will say this tho...
    Paynes grey in wildlife colors is very dark compared to Paynes grey in woods and water paint which is very blue.

    I use wildlife colors Paynes grey for my nosepads.. (over flesh and burnt umber )
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  4. rogerswildlife

    rogerswildlife Rogers Wildlife Taxidermy Tommy Rogers

    Candy colors are transparent and mostly used on fish . Any Paynes Grey has a blue color to them . I use yox nose pad Grey but not just by itself .
  5. Jason L

    Jason L New Member

    Yes I understand the transparency of candy colors but if you add a little retarder to yox nose pad Grey , it seems as if it's the same as candy paynes Grey.....
  6. RichMO

    RichMO Well-Known Member

    Colors work different with other colors depending on a variety of things... So the bottom line is if like the Candy Payes gray use it...If you like Yox nose bad gray use it... A judge is not going to downgrade you on the various shades of black or gray....Anatomy if this case is more important... I use both and will continue based on the application and other colors.
  7. Bill Yox

    Bill Yox Well-Known Member

    Yox nose pad grey is BECAUSE of paynes grey, and definitely not the same animal. Trust me...I have an inside source...wink.

    Heres the abbreviated story of Yox nose pad grey...

    Ive been shown just about every way to paint a nose pad, including every color. Mars red, paynes grey, brown, you name it. But aside from some texas and oklahoma bucks, I seldom saw any brown in noses. Nor did I like the blue value in paynes grey, which I always fought with. Well one day while we were testing and tagging captive whitetails, we had a particularly rowdy bunch go through the chutes, and I ended up having to man handle a bunch of button bucks. Some of them really took a beating and I noticed when I handled them that the nose pads were rubbed raw. What was interesting was the color value I saw. Once the true "black" pigment wore off, I saw a violet, or magenta value instead. So I began mixing and thinning some paint, and came up with a mix I loved. It appllied very well, very thin, and could be toned with a very light and thin black pigment. Once I got what I really liked kinda dialed in, I asked Ken Edwards, then of WASCO and PolyTranspar, if he could mix a batch for me, so it could stay consistent. I hoped he might be able to do me a batch now and then, to avoid losing its shelf life if we did a big volume. After going back and forth with text samples, the "final" sample had a label, and Ken had labelled it Yox nose pad grey. No ego, visions of getting rich, or anything like that. I just needed a good nose pad value that would remain consistent.

    Thats the story, from the source.
  8. Bill Yox

    Bill Yox Well-Known Member

    And...Not for nothing, but...really? Sheesh.
  9. Jason L

    Jason L New Member

    Hey Bill, it wasn't meant to sound negative towards you. I figured that there really was a diffrence but I couldn't tell myself. I apologize if my question and comment came off in a negative way....
  10. Bill Yox

    Bill Yox Well-Known Member

    Nah I didnt say it like i was insulted, more like a "cmon now, really?" kind of thing. Thats why I said sheesh, to kid a bit. Plus, I gave you that nice story too!! Trust me, its all good. Hope the paint works for you like it does for me.
  11. DOUG H

    DOUG H Member

    I think its wicked pissa,its a new England thing!
  12. Rob43

    Rob43 Active Member

    I like the color and use it on all of my Whitetail noses.