Capes slipping after rinse stage

Your issues are more than likely starting to occur long before your rinse step. You need to provide a detailed method that you follow so that we may troubleshoot it for you.

 

I would stop rinsing so much. Have you tried prepping and mounting without rinsing?

 

Have you tested your water? Do you have city water? Another thing to consider is sterilizing your tanning equipment.

 

Is it not important to put it back into pickle after shaving? I always return capes or skins back to the pickle for at least a day after I shave or degrease. I then pull them out and move onto neutralizing.

 

Tazzymoto mentioned this. Why wash after the rehydration? What are you rehydrating with? 1/4 salt per gal in rehydration?
Are your capes "t" cut or short incision ? If so, you need plenty of air circulating through the hair inside the "tube".
After applying the tan, water will "weep" from the skin.. If the inside of a T cut stays wet(hair side)and has no air circulation, it can easily slip. Same thing with cased legs.

 

I noticed you said you rinse and then ROLL up the capes or skins in a Towel to set them aside. I wouldn't Roll anything in Tanning. If you rinsed them the excess Rinse Water has no place to drain away to - except maybe stay in the hair and maybe weaken the epidermis (causing slippage). FOLD, FOLD, FOLD - if you are rinsing and then want the pieces to safely DRAIN!!

 

40 minutes, imo, is a long time in a neutralizer.

Like others stated, quite rinsing so much.

 

The original directions I wrote for Trubond said nothing about a towel. Just FYI Ever wash them towels? LOL

We have been pm..in on this problem for a while.

The short hairs don't hold water like the long hairs. The type of tan I used in this product works best when throughly neutralized. Up to an hour wouldn't hurt. For those that don't know, I formulated this product. By now, it has been used to tan thousands, upon thousands of skins, perfectly, with no issues.

Just like most tans, short cuts are often added. The owner has a GREAT DEAL OF TANNING EXPERIENCE, and he decided to change the origional instructions.

My ORIGIONAL INSTRUCTIONS were this. After neutralization, and after applying the tan, let the tan soak in for a couple of hours. Here is where the short cut was added........ NOW, Hang the skin up to dry overnight under a fan or something similar. Next AM, after drying, WASH THE CAPE IN A SOLUTION OF 1/4 lb salt per gal of warm water, with some dawn or degrease. After complete wash, and the ear butts are soft again, pull skin and drain. Freeze NOW, or mount.

Straight to the freezer after applying the tan , and letting it soak, was something someone else added later. They had good luck with that method, and I guess so did others.

If you use the method I just suggested here, you won't have any problems, EVER! I chose this method to make it "error proof". This type of tan actually "pushes water" from the collagen matrix. It's important to let it have time to work before freezing. It drips for hours! All the pm's we traded, and I always thought you were doing this, or I would have suggested it sooner.

 

You didn't answer my question about those towels. Have you ever washed them? Ever notice how wet towels start to stink....? There is a reason for that. Just checking. Little update here.Do you have a website? I got my first email from you on 5/8/2017.

1. 5/8/17 - "half my deer slip after neutralizing. Hundreds of hairs curl up and fall out w/ease"
2. 5/9/17- "Letting it soak for a few hours, then bagging and freezing-washing just before mounting-been using safte acid- tried citric"
3. 5/15/17- " checked water pH with 1 tbs bicarbonate pH was 7.5-8.0
4. 5/15/17- " still slipping after neutralizing- painting on tan, letting it soak for a few hours on a pallet" towels still used
No further contact until August 28, might have talked by phone once? Talk to too many to remember?
8/28/17- " I narrowed my problem down to the rinse,had no issues with buddies capes- seemed everything went to hell after wrapping in towel. FIRST TIME "that you have waited 12-16 hours for tan to dry" here.

Everyone is welcome to keep guessing! I'm pretty positive that just about anything you can think of asking, I have already asked him(or her). But hey, never hurts to try. Did it dry "hair side out"?

Is your freezer freezing GOOD! Those towels seem to be a reoccurring factor in this whole thing also? If you keep using those same towels, throw them away. Also, in ALL THE PM's we have exchanged, it has never been mentioned about cleaning EVERY SINGLE THING with a weak Clorox solution. Ever cleaned out your freezer? Has it thawed in the last few months?

I have already covered all the pH questions,salt content of solutions, plastic bags,sitting in water, etc... You have to find the bacteria source! If someone can guess the source of bacteria entry into the process, in this situation, problem will be solved.

As I ALWAYS tell everyone, no matter what tan is used, THE TAN CAN NOT MAKE A SKIN SLIP! No matter which name is on the packaging. The pickle locks in hair, and only the entry of a bacteria source, can change that.(as long as the skin remains within the parameters of a normal tanning process)

 

Are you reusing salt? Have you tried add a bacteiriacide in the rehydration process? Also try neutralizing in steps. That may help with the hair curling. Good luck

 

My guess is you are not thinning your capes enough. I see you were complaining about lack of stretch too. Plus what everyone else is saying. If I were you I would start sending to a good tannery like Carolina Fur dressiing until you get the tanning figured out, by using your own hides or extras
I have only used one gallon of Truebond and the one thing that impressed me was the stretch.