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Capes slipping after rinse stage

Discussion in 'Tanning' started by bluff top taxidermy, Aug 29, 2017.

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  1. Aug 30, 2017 #21
    bluff top taxidermy

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    Not reusing any salt and tried a little splash of bacteriacide from matuskas in the pickle on one but had no idea how much to use since it doesnt really give any instructions. Glenn i dont recall ever saying anything about no stretch, im averaging 22inches out of my 2 yr old deer and 24-25 off my 3 yr old capes, have actually had several over 30inches couple inches below the ears , have tried leaving a little thicker with the same result. That is what i did this past yr was sent all my capes out to a tannery , now that all those are mounted im trying to figure out my problem using spare capes that i bought last fall
     
  3. Aug 30, 2017 #22
    cyclone

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    How are you rehydrating and how are you "washing"?
     

  5. Aug 30, 2017 #23
    Rhino

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    Tazzymoto has a good idea. Heck, a bacteriacide added to any solution won't hurt anything. The pickle is the LAST place you need a bacteriacide. The low pH and high salt IS A BACTERIACIDE.

    Good luck with this. Between all these brains, someone will post a solution. Keep maticulous records of your next tanning venture, and the ideas folks are giving you, to insure you know where things are going bad.
     
  6. Aug 30, 2017 #24
    cyclone

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    That's quite perplexing..
     
  7. Aug 30, 2017 #25
    Rhino

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    I know!? Someone taking a fresh look will stumble on something before its all over... You have city water? Well water?
     
  8. Aug 30, 2017 #26
    big dan

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    One thing that helped me when I was struggling with my tan is: after I tan and hang to dry I will let it dry completely so you can get water displacement (I think that's the correct term) before you rehydrate and mount.
     
  9. Aug 30, 2017 #27
    Rhino

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    Exactly Dan. That is the best way to go for THIS tan. Pretty sure bluff top is going to do the same.
     
  10. Aug 30, 2017 #28
    bluff top taxidermy

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    Have well water, which i why i said i was gonna try one cape with my neighbors water and one cape with mine and see if thetes a difference, hung these last ones up for prolly 18 hrs and skin was still dripping wet? Face was somewhat starting to dry but the rest was still fairly wet so idk, not too many people i know hang their capes that long and they nevwr seem to have an issue so not sure. Gonna try not using towels these next few l and maybe try putting a fan on them this go around and see if that helps at all
     
  11. Aug 30, 2017 #29
    Rhino

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    Good possibility of water source issues. Lord knows we all have tried here! Never asked about your salt source?

    There are literally dozens of things, or combinations of things that could be causing you problems.

    Been doing some reading on hair. If the hair is taking way long to dry, the cuticles of the hair are being damaged somewhere in the process. I have ALWAYS BELIEVED that a pH that is too low, damages the hair. Many don't believe that!?

    On the other end of the pH scale, baking soda has never damaged any hair! That's why in a PM, I asked if you were using soda ash. Because soda ash WILL CAUSE SLIP if you use too much.

    If you don't mind, let us know how this turns out. I would go buy some regular drinking water to use. Not mineral water.
     
  12. Aug 30, 2017 #30
    Tanglewood Taxidermy

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    I had the same problem with Liqua-tan. Turns out leaving the hair too wet, too long was the issue. Frank Kotula helped me with that.
     
  13. Aug 31, 2017 #31
    bluff top taxidermy

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    Best way to get the hair to dry the fastest? I feel like just letting it hang and drip dry wouldnt do much , have been putting mine on a pallet after i tan with a block under it so water can drain out and cape can still breathe but still stays pretty wet
     
  14. Aug 31, 2017 #32
    tazzymoto

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    Have you tried tumbling in saw dust or corn Cobb grit with a little mineral spirits?
     
  15. Aug 31, 2017 #33
    bluff top taxidermy

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    Have a tumbler but have yet to use it, capes start slipping 20 minutes after the final rinse so not sure tumbling would help at all
     
  16. Aug 31, 2017 #34
    Tanglewood Taxidermy

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    I put mine in a dryer full of clean towels for 15 to 20 minutes after an hour of hanging to drip dry in front of a fan on the hair side. Skip that last rinse and see what happens.
     
  17. Aug 31, 2017 #35
    cyclone

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    Are you letting the capes float in the pickle or are you weighing them down? How often are you checking pH and how often are you stirring?
     
  18. Aug 31, 2017 #36
    tazzymoto

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    I mean tumble them, do not rinse them .
     
  19. Aug 31, 2017 #37
    bluff top taxidermy

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    Yes i weigh the capes down, 1st day i check ph every 2 hours and stir, 2nd day do it a few times. So your saying dont rinse the tan off and just tumble and mount like that with the tan still on it?
     
  20. Aug 31, 2017 #38
    tazzymoto

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    Yes
     
  21. Aug 31, 2017 #39
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  22. Aug 31, 2017 #40
    tazzymoto

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    I just read the directions from Tru- Bond. I don't see any where they tell you to rinse the cape except at the end.
     
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