JP, you can call BS all you want here but, as I said those two trades base their price on an industry standard, the difference is their mark up of supplies and their hourly rate and added expected profit margin. I don't believe that is disputable. Reputation and customer perception are very important here, maybe even moreso than quality of work. I don't begrudge you fro charging what you do. I say good for you. I'll get there. I'm listening to folks such as yourself that share your experiences. I also see the same things, when I raise my prices, I lose some, for a while and gain some others. It seems that those that leave, come back when they realize that my quality exceeds other, less expensive choices.