Just turned ear in deer and the rverse pliers busted out the back, so on the other ear I was very careful using my Thumbs and it also busted. The back skin on those ears were as thin as I have ever encountered. In the past I would jump on The ears asap while still green and never been in freezer. But ocasionally run across one or both that is a pain. When is the best time to turn ear while still green or after pickle? Does anyone have a better technique?