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Anybody use this product for sealing fins?

Discussion in 'Fish Taxidermy' started by Cecil, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    Clear Alex Plus Acrylic Latex Caulk Plus Silicone. 40 yr.

    Just applied some and it seems to work better than the Elmer's glue I've been using. However it seems just a tad tacky. Haven't painted over it yet.

    For some reason I've had good luck with Elmer's glue for fin coating, but as of late it's not as flexible, and even sealing the fins before using the Elmer's glue the fins seem to warp.
     
  2. Sikk

    Sikk Member

    Re: Anybody use this produce for sealing fins?

    I have used it for about 8 years or so, used both the 30 and 40 year. stays flexible and clear. I also use it for hide paste on fish, birds, and small mammals where drying time is preferred to be slow. I try to buy it in bulk when on sale locally, stores well, even when the tube is opened. I have seen no issues. paul
     

  3. Re: Anybody use this produce for sealing fins?

    Use it for years. Just seal the fin with either lacquer or shellac first.
     
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  4. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    Re: Anybody use this produce for sealing fins?

    Good to know Gentlemen! Thank you for your replies!

    I use the white version for gluing fish skins to mannikins.
     
  5. BCastle

    BCastle New Member

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    Hey Cecil! I haven't used the Elmers for a very long time. I use a brand of gel gloss mediums that are far better. Super heavy gel gloss first 2 coats then paint fish and usual clear coats, then before customer picks up a final coat of regular heavy gel gloss medium. Feel free to message me on fb or email [email protected] for exact brand name. Only one brand works the best, and I never back fins with silkspan etc, I will use clear surgical tape on damaged or broken fins when needed before 2nd coat. Yours Truly B.Castle
     
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  6. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your reply but I'd rather use something I can easily get locally.
     
  7. not really a fish guy but have done my fair share. what are the advantages of using the caulk? always interested to learn new tricks. ive always used modge podge for fins and had good results.
     
  8. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    For me the advantage is it's something I can pick up locally without paying shipping. This is not a knock against the taxidermy suppliers, but many of their products they sell are just relabeled products that were designed for other uses. WASCO sold a fin cream for years that was nothing but clear caulking. (Still do for all I know.)
     
  9. I completely agree and not only relabeled but marked up, besides paint and forms and eyes most everything else I get local. including modge podge. might try out the caulk next time though.
     
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  10. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    But to be clear I see nothing wrong with them marking things up as it is a business, it's just I'd rather get the same product cheaper locally so I can to keep my costs down and profit up.

    But you have the be a smart shopper locally too. I can get two tubes of superglue at the local Family Dollar for one dollar. Same two tubes, same exact brand, absolutely no difference is over $4.00 at my local Ace Hardware. I use a lot of superglue on fish laying down and ironing scales, saturating fish filler etc. before bonding Magic Sculpt to the filler. Needless to say I don't buy Super Glue at Ace anymore. I'd be crazy to!
     
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  11. jim tucker

    jim tucker Active Member

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    I use it sometimes. Only I pump it all out into a container and thin it with water so it brushes on smoothly.
     
  12. Where can you buy that clear alex acrylic caulk silicone 40 yr at.
     
  13. slabbandit

    slabbandit Active Member

    I just started back mounting fish after a few years. Some of you may remember I lost my shop to a fire back in 2014. I was used to use DermaGrip Fin and Fish Coat Clear and Silkspan. Anyway, don't remember any issues back then but now my fins get real wavy after drying! Even the tail will do it a little with the pectoral being the worst. Tried sealing first with lacquer fungicidal sealer on last fish but didn't seam to help much. Any suggestions?
     
  14. JHardman

    JHardman Active Member

    I typically just mold and cast my own, none of these problems that way. In the event that I do use the real fins I have good success sealing them first with a couple coats of lacquer or acrylic sealer. I will then build them up a bit with Mod-podge and finish filling them out with the acrylic caulk mentioned above. Using this method I haven't had trouble with curling at all. I typically just get the caulk at any hardware store or even Wal-mart if I have to. Also make sure you seal both sides of the fin thoroughly or they will still curl.
     
  15. JL

    JL Taxidermist for 64 years

    After they dry completely, I seal all fins with 2 coats of shellac then 2 coats of ModPodge. Works for me. Good luck.
     
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  16. byrdman

    byrdman Well-Known Member

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    go to a construction supply company and ask for concrete bonder sometimes refered to as " milk" its a little thin but can be made thicker by evaporating in a tray or pan outside or keep as is just need more coats dries clear ,bonds great ,flexible ...i use 2-3 coats of thickened and a finish coat of thin
     
  17. hambone

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    JLs system works good for me.