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L.M. bass paintjobs

Discussion in 'Fish Taxidermy' started by fish stuffer, Jun 2, 2018.

  1. fish stuffer

    fish stuffer Active Member

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    I can't believe how people see bass differently. I've been painting them for years. If you look at mine, most all look different. It's because I experiment alot. I'm never satisfied with mine, even though my cust like them. I keep trying to paint the perfect bass, so far, I've not done it. I guess I'll keep trying. I've studied the top names in the business. Most paint them too green to suit my taste. Some have the most beautiful markings, spot patterns, but the green on a bass, I.M.O., dosen't come all the way down over the side. The area just above the line of spots down the side, or lateral line, isn't dark green. It isn't yellow either. It's a green gold. The same as the gold on the scale tipping. It isn't gold, it's a green gold. Most commercial taxi's in my area spray the back green, olive drab like an Army truck, white belly, then a bunch of squiggley lines down the side in black and "Chit-Ching!", out the door he goes. Looks like a first grader painted it with a crayon. There are no fishheads in my area, that I know of. Some have deer coolers, their deer look good, but fish look terrible.
     
  2. Fallenscale

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    Location location location . Then what season of the year.
     

  3. dale65

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    Yeah but not all fish look alike some here come from ponds some from rivers that are clear some muddy rivers and time of year too some are really dark and some are real light seems like most are on the darker side here but I just paint them the way I like unless they got a pic of them and just want them dark or light
     
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  4. whitetails and fish only

    whitetails and fish only Well-Known Member

    I've seen smallmouth fresh caught that look like dark mud, hang them over the boat on a sunny day and they lighten way up and the barring really pops. Also, the largemouth Bill Dance catches on his show, look way lighter than most of the ones I have seen here in Mn.
     
  5. Monty Python

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    After doing this 25+ years I have to say that it is easy to fall into the trap of painting fish with the technique that works best for you and not taylored to the individual fish the way they should be. I try to be mindful of this and get some pics of the fish from the customer if possible. I do agree with the op that green is overdone on many bass that I see. Good post
     
  6. dale65

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    I seen a crappie that look like it had been dip in some dye hafe way up the fish had a straight line all the way around it and had not been in any ice or anything . Any one ever seen any thing like that ?
     
  7. 1fish2fish

    1fish2fish Well-Known Member

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    Please share more on this. Who, examples?
     
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  8. fish stuffer

    fish stuffer Active Member

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    I'll share more on this. I do know how to paint. But when I'm in my shop I look at my bass mounts and they all look different. It's because I experiment and try diff things. Most of my fish have been repainted, touched up, because they were done when I was only doing it as a hobby. I'd feel like painting because I enjoy the airbrush, and I'd take one down and touch him up or totally repaint it. That's how I learn.

    Then, I let myself be influnced by others, big mistake. On social media, people would bragg so and so does the best bass mt. in our area. I'd look at his bass and see a green cucumber and say , hey, if that's what they want, I can do that with a blindfold on. I'd paint one up, all green, and it did look pretty. But sooner or later I'd take it down and add gold. Why? Because it didn't look like any bass I've ever seen. Back before polytranspar and color charts, I used to bass fish all the time. I'd catch one and hold him up in the sun and look at it, studdied it like a science. I've fished N.C., S.C.,Tenn., GA., and fl. I know about clear water, dark bass. I've caught bass in cold muddy water on days I shoulda stayed home. Fish all day in the cold for one strike. I have seen bass from muddy water be silver looking. But each scale has a "tipping" as it's called. I know why most commercial guys don't tip scales. In my area we have some that can't paint. But most just want to get it done quick to make money. Nothing wrong with that, the cust dosen't know. He thinks his gord green fish looks good.

    I didn't mean this post to slam anybody. Heck, I enjoy looking at others work. There are some people doing beautiful work out there. This is a follow up of another post"bass specialist." on page 2. I want to compete. I'm just trying to get my head wrapped around what I'm gonna do. Also, I need to settle in on a paint job that I really like.

    Ex. Again, I'm not slamming anybody. I've been "saving photos" in an album of others' work. Also , live fish, underwater shots too. One thing I've noticed is, in most shots, there is very little black on the live bass. The spots appear to be the same color dark green as the upper back. Then I said, I've been painting my bass to dark. Especially the spots. Then, this morn, I got on a taxidermists site that does african, big game, birds, he has hundreds of pics., but only one trout, 1 bass, 1 bream. The bass looked like a Matt thomson paintjob. Boy it was pretty. All the markings looked almost black. So I'm right back where I started . LOL!

    Tom Sextons pt. schedule shows "diamonds" on the upper back. Mat thompsons dvd shows extremely dark markings. I know they all vary. I checked out dans and they were beautiful. To me, I don't like that much green on the side of the fish. Ken B., beautiful! Too much green for my taste. I'm thinking maybe if I saw the fish in person, at a show, it might look different.

    I pulled up my compeditors web site one time and checked out his birds. I thought, they look good, but not all that good, as I had heard. But when I saw them in person, they were fantastic. It's like the photos didn't do them justice.

    I wonder when I see a fisherman holding up an eight pound bass for a photo, and it's still alive, if he put it back in the water would the spots get darker? When a bass feeds, he hides in weeds or brush, does his spots get blacker?

    Matt thomson says in his dvd he spends 40 hours painting a compitition bass. He paints them one scale at a time. If I remember right.

    I read somewhere, In comp. if it's an underwater scene, you don't paint the fish high gloss. You use satin finish. Anybody know???
     
  9. dale65

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    I see what your talking about but on a commercial fish I don't think you could spend that much time on one and make any money . The black spots your talking about i don't use any black on a bass at all and the gloss I think you have to if you useing lacquer paint as it won't show it's color to you do and I clear them ever few steps in the painting process think it makes it look a lot deeper and not all run together . No two fish ever look just alike to me even though I do them the same maybe it has to do with skin mounts too couse there not the same color either there is a lot of different in a skin mount and a repo guess it all just depends on how much time you want to spend on scale tipping and how much customers really see in comp it's a hole different ball game far as time and money
     
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  10. 1fish2fish

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    Credit to you for going after the look you see in your reference.

    I disagree with much of your criticism though; don't let that dissuade you. It's your look, not mine, and it's good you are chasing fish reference and moving away from mount reference.

    I remember Ken writing there were some things he could improve on in the mount I've posted. So even amongst the best there is a hunger to do better. Still, this is one of my favorite LMB mounts, really exceptional to my eyes. If your painting gets close to any of the guys you mentioned, your insanely good. I just picked Ken, Dan B's bass look like they could swim to me and there are many others that nock it out of the park in my eyes. And their mounts vary from fish to fish, because, like it seems you are doing, they are matching their paint jobs to replicate each fish specifically.
     
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  11. Ron Kelly

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    That reference photo looks like a Spotted Bass to me so I wouldn't use it for a Largemouth.
     
  12. AnglingArtisan

    AnglingArtisan Well-Known Member

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  13. 1fish2fish

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    Dang Fish and Wildlfe Service!
     
  14. Cole

    Cole Amateur Taxidermist

    I'm with Ron, looks like a spot to me.

    Red eye, short mandible, markings...
     
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  15. dale65

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    Yep looks like a spot to me to get a lot of them around here out of the river
     
  16. rogerswildlife

    rogerswildlife Rogers Wildlife Taxidermy Tommy Rogers

    That is a spot .
    Tommy