I know people use Gill Red, Magenta, for the color but if you look closely neither one is correct. Their to dark even if you paint white underneath. I attended a bird from the OK show is about as close as one can get but what color is it and did he mix, possibly paint pink or white underneath???? If you know the answer let me know. I'm setting up a class with World Champion Jonathan Wright for later on this year but I have 2 customer birds to complete and would like to try for the correct color or ?????