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How Has Cwd Affected You?

Discussion in 'Deer and Gameheads' started by SEC, Dec 15, 2018.

  1. SEC

    SEC New Member

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    Well my home state of Tennessee has just had 7 deer that have preliminarily tested positive for cwd. We have been under a no brain matter and no bone import law for a couple years now. Would like to hear from some folks who operate a taxidermy shop in states where cwd has been for a while? How did your state handle it? Any crazy laws being imposed?
     
  2. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    I know you asked for taxidermists that has had cwd in there state for awhile, but, here in Oregon, where we don't have it yet, the only rules so far is you can not import some of the parts of your out of state harvest. Cleaned skull plate with horns, antler etc., the hide/cape, and boned out meat are what can be brought back.
     

  3. joeym

    joeym Jeannette & Joey @ Dunn's Falls

    It has stopped all hope of big game coming into my shop for good. Out of state taxidermist capitalize on it, and I don't too much blame them. I've lost several Alabama jobs in the past month, since cervids cannot cross the state line going either way. But, all is good, and we will be in business, even if the last deer dies...there's other stuff out there to mount.
     
  4. 3bears

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    This year has been the worst year to date for turning work away. It has me cost at least $8,000 to $10,00. The ban has been in place for a few years now but, as usual the state has done a horsechit job of educating people. Up until this year they threatened "Violators" with a written warning, that none of my customers ever received. Now they aren't offering any amnesty, it is automatic fine. One of the first things out of my mouth when people call to inquire about a shoulder mount or euro is what and where did you harvest it. I gets asked, "What should I do now"? I'm the asshole because I won't help em, not the DNR. Hard to build or run a business when you have to turn away business and not because you are way backed up.
     
  5. Trophy Specialist

    Trophy Specialist Active Member

    I have lost a lot of business from it. If your state is a destination hunting state then taxidermists there could benefit. Michigan is not a destination state.
     
  6. Turned away 8 in the last 30 days.
     
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  7. 3bears

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    This is what I see happening, it hasn't yet, unless you harvest a deer in a cwd area, that you won't be able to transport a deer out of the deer permit area it was harvested in. That will even hurt me more, I don't typically mount many deer killed locally. Most of customer base travels hours away to their respective deer camps.
     
  8. Crittrstuffr

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    Has made my decision to retire after 40 years easy. I have turned down 11 deer mounts this year. I also live in Michigan 13 miles north of the Ohio line and ran my business out of Ohio for all but the last 7 years. Had a lot of contacts and customers down there. More time to trap with my son now.
     
  9. Educate your customers guys. As far as I know most states allow capes and antlers with skull caps in. If your customer will pay a taxidermist in the state where they kill to cape and cap they can bring the trophy to you to mount. That may not apply everywhere but I've been skinning for nonresident hunters from all over the country for several years now and have never heard of anyone having a problem.
     
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  10. Trophy Specialist

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    I thawed out a couple out of state capes today done by "taxidermists" in IL and OH. Both of them had all kinds of issues where I had to phone my clients and explain to them what was wrong. Not fun. One "taxidermist" charged $100 to cape the deer and did a horrible job splinting it up the white of the pits, chopping the nostrils short and leaving five pound of meat on the hide, which is illegal for import. No measurements from either taxidermist either, not even a nose to eye, so I have to guesstimate on those. I plan to simi-retire in a couple years too. CWD regulations will be part of the reason for that too.
     
  11. 3bears

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    It is not my job to educate hunters on the laws of the state. By the time they call me, the laws have been broken. The fact that the state said we need to work together on this is a joke, I end up going above and beyond to educate hunters, where they don't seem to do chit.
    That's great for you, those that do seek a local taxidermist to prep for transport do not have any issues, as was already mentioned it is good for guys and gals in a destination state or locale but not so for many others. I see it is hard for those that have not been negatively affected by these laws to see our point, in fact some have benefited from them, IE more business. Chit' I'll cape and prep skull plates for $100.00 a pop all day long during gun season but, I've been at this for over a decade and have only been asked to do it once.
     
  12. Crittrstuffr

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    You know as well as i do the other taxidermist will tell your clients "tell ya what partner I charge $100 bucks to skin this but will do it for free if ya leave it hear and I'll mount it fer ya". Then hello Shipping Charge! I'm ok with my decision to hang it up. Taxidermy is already more work than we get paid or credit for not going to add another layer by becoming a teacher of rules that change every year.
     
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  13. Ok Yeah it's all doom and gloom. Now I remember why I quit coming to this site so much. By the way I charge $30 to cape and cap and try to discourage hunters from leaving something with me if I have to ship it. I hate building crates.
     
  14. 3bears

    3bears Well-Known Member

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    No it's not all doom and gloom, the sky isn't falling but a hit like I stated does hurt the bottom line, I'll survive but I have to make that up elsewhere and I kind of like mounting big game more than other stuff. You have a different perspective, that is all. You only charge $30? What part of Kansas are you in? I came up with a price of $50 for that but have had customers pay others the $100 I mentioned.
    What are the Kansas rules on importing? Kansas has been on the no fly list for a while here, if I'm not mistaken.
     
  15. 3bears

    3bears Well-Known Member

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    sportinglife, the original question was "How has CWD affected you?" I answered truthfully how it has affected me. You maybe haven't been bothered by it, that's great but please don't discredit those of us it has. I understand many just come on here and bitch about it but do nothing else, I assure you that is not me. If you cared to do a little digging, you will see that for yourself. If not that's fine, have a good day.
     
  16. Terry Bennett

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  17. We can't use any scents whats so ever for hunting. Might cause deer to lick and get CWD from each other. So no deer urine or buck bombs or powders, not even the synthetic stuff. Nothing!
     
  18. joeym

    joeym Jeannette & Joey @ Dunn's Falls

    Time is an element in a lot of cases. Hunters have to find a taxidermist and wait on him to cape it. If it can't happen quick, they leave it. I told one guy last week to saw the antlers off, remove the brain and skin, and toss the rest...I can find capes all year long.
     
  19. Trophy Specialist

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    What's bad in Michigan is that they have laws about moving deer withing the state too. If someone kills a buck in a CWD area, then they have to jump through a lot of hoops. They end up taking the deer to the taxidermist to get it caped, then they have to come back and pick up the skull and take it to the DNR for testing. Some taxidermists are getting certificated to take out the lymph nodes for testing too, which saves them the trip.
     
  20. ANDY

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    I propably caped out 50 deer at the butcher shop for out of state hunters but there was
    that many that also said they'll have to catch me. I had a taxidermist that said he got a
    letter from the Odnr that said he could take in any out of state deer unskinned , the
    remains just had to be disposed of in a certified landfill. Also said any deer can pass thru
    the state unskinned as long as they don't stop anywhere. It seems everybody you talk
    to tells you something different.