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Bobcat Measurments

Discussion in 'Lifesize Mammals' started by GP1419, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. GP1419

    GP1419 Active Member

    When I order my bobcat forms they always seem to be to big or to long and I have to cut and sand and cut and sand, I understand that all forms are different but I measure the meat in the position I want to mount the cat in and I order as close to the measurement as I can get, but one of the measurements will be off some,( I am a deer guy so I only do a couple cats a year,) my question is what measurement other than the eye to nose is the most important to get close to my cat fitting the form, the circum, or the head to tail, once again I'm sort of a rookie on cats so any advice would help.
  2. Joe Kish

    Joe Kish Well-Known Member

    The measurements in most catalogs are generally reliable for most size ranges like small -24, medium - 30, and large - 32+. But my rule #1 is that all forms should be considered as blanks, that is they are sized and designed for average specimens of the species. One can't expect any form which was not modeled to fit your skins to be a perfect fit for your skins. Therefore most commercial forms (not all) may require a little tweeking to fit nicely.

    I would say that the most important measurements are: Head length, eye to nose, total length, and belly circumference.

    Since I model forms, here's an example of the measurements I take so that I can duplicate a particular specimen with as much accuracy as will fit most skins of a particular size class. If you expect every form you buy to fit like a glove, you're expecting too much. 001.jpg

  3. GP1419

    GP1419 Active Member

    Joe thanks for the help, I do not expect them to be a dead on fit I know I will have to alter some, but when I order my form they give me 3 measurements to choose from, e to n, circumference, head to tail, I was just wondering which measurement would you try and get as close to as possible the circumference or the head to tail, I guess I'm asking is it easier to make him shorter longer, or make him bigger or smaller around, I'm not great on altering forms yet but I'm getting there, I probably don't take enough measurements of the cat before I discard of the carcass, according to your 's I don't come close.
  4. dale65

    dale65 Active Member

    I would go with the eye to nose and circumstance it's not hard to shorten or make it longer if needed
  5. Joe Kish

    Joe Kish Well-Known Member

    I agree with eye to nose, but my second choice would be total length. There is a consistency you can rely on when measuring most every critter. Say, a bobcat with an eye to nose length of 1/12" will have a close approximate body length and circumferences of all other specimens with the same N to E measurement. Circumference variants are mostly if the animal had just eaten a large meal, or was heavily fatted.or undernourished.
    Keep in mind also, a cat skin 30 inches long can be used on forms 29" and 31" long with good results because a one inch in 29 or 31 inches is negligible. An experienced taxidermist knows he can stretch or scrunch a few percentages and still get a good fit.

    Lastly, my experience has been that every good supply company will provide you with further details like measurements over the phone if you ask them.
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  6. wa

    wa Thanks John...this depicts me better

    Male to Female heads some times on cats can very greatly same
    with 29"female vers 29"male bodes can differ also.
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2019
  7. Joe Kish

    Joe Kish Well-Known Member

    You got it right wa. That's a very important distinction. It becomes more and more differentiated as males mature.
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  8. Mike Powell

    Mike Powell Well-Known Member

    Are you taking your measurement from the carcass or from the hide? Personally, while I take carcass measurements (with head straight out), I dont order the form until I have the hide tanned and ready to mount. I then take measurements from the hide laid out on a table. I will order the form based on the smaller of the two sets of measurements. The size of the head to the corresponding body - male vs female - can be an issue, particularly with one particular line of forms.
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  9. wibago

    wibago New Member

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  10. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    How did it escape you that you are on a taxidermy site that has nothing to do with excavation equipment?
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  11. Denton Shearin

    Denton Shearin 2009-Breakthrough Award, McKenzie Award,

    For myself, I tend to favor giving circumference measurement priority on bobcats. I find it easier to add or subtract an inch or two of length than have to adjust the girth.
    For big cats we just get the measurement as close as we can. We understand we are going to be altering those forms.
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