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Cuts On A Fish For Ped Mount

Discussion in 'Fish Taxidermy' started by rbear, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. rbear

    rbear Well-Known Member

    I'm new to fish. Have done one smallmouth skin mount and two repos.
    I am going to mount two long nose gar swimming out from the wall and would like some recommendations on where to cut them for the best concealment of the seam? Will be removing the head. I was thinking straight down the dorsal?
    Thanks
     
  2. 3bears

    3bears Well-Known Member

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    I myself would think about attachment to base or what have you on where I make the cut. Another words if the belly will be close to the base I would likely ventral skin it. Either way you have to repair the seam. As stiff as I hear they are tube skinning probably wouldn't work.
     

  3. rbear

    rbear Well-Known Member

    Thanks
    Wanting them to be mounted to the stem of a lily pad. So the wire would go into the fish just in front of the tail. I thought the same thing you did. I could probably have one going up with the cut down the dorsal and one swimming down with the cut down the belly. Like I said just getting into fish. I can hide a seam with a little fur like a champ but don't know about these scales. I've done a few alligators. Their big scales with the gaps between them are fairly easy to hide a seam.
     
  4. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

    try cutting from dorsal to head
    cut head off then tube it from anal and caudal
    I assume your cutting fins off?
    but if this is not a comp piece cut the sucker down the back
    so much easier
     
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  5. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    I'm with Clew here! Why not just do a normal incision and "hide" the seams by putting the fish side by side and/or adding some habitat to conceal? So much easier! (Personally, I have trouble with belly cuts and reproducing things to hide and I steer away from them like the plague!) Dorsal is much easier and I like Clew's idea here IF you decide not to go with a back incision.
     
  6. Frank E. Kotula

    Frank E. Kotula master, judge, instructor

    If you really want to do a great mount , you have to take a row of scales off, lay them in order, cut the fish etc. and mount. Then replace each back in to hide that seam.
    It’s easier on big scaled fish to pull this off.
     
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  7. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    Frank, How do you keep he scales from curling up after they are removed? Do you lay them temporarily on masking tape sticky side up like Sexton does in one of his fish taxidermy books?
     
  8. That would be rough on a trout with my fat fingers.
     
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  9. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    I assume you're kidding? If not I would assume the scales are so small on trout it would't even be necessary. You would be able to rough in or press scales in after the seam is filled.
     
  10. Frank E. Kotula

    Frank E. Kotula master, judge, instructor

    You can just lay anything ( book)on them , wet them prior to glueing down.
     
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  11. Frank E. Kotula

    Frank E. Kotula master, judge, instructor

    Trout are the easiest to do! I use micro tools , with a huge lighted magnifying glass and glue them in. Sometimes I think you folks have no idea on how to do things lol
    All I do on them is epoxy and hand paint scales back in.
    Besides you’ve probably never seen my fingers. Lol
     
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  12. That's why I said that ,your fat finger quote lol.
     
  13. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    They must've not had books back in the day when Sexton had to use tape - hee-hee! I can see using painters tape to keep them in place and in order. One sneeze in the wrong direction with the book method ;). Will old Playboys work Frank??? ;)
     
  14. How times have changed you can see the seam on Tom Sextons 1985 world fish.
     
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  15. Frank E. Kotula

    Frank E. Kotula master, judge, instructor

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    olny if there open to the centerfold
    indeed be careful if you open it to the centerfold. You might be spending to much time watching the scales dry
     
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  16. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    And nobody gets their porn from a magazine anymore. At least that is what I hear. :p
     
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2019
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  17. rbear

    rbear Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all your great replies. Sorry for my late response been away.
    I will have to think about how I want to do it. Removing the scales sounds like a fun project.
    I definitely think cutting down the back would be best.
    Yes I was planning on removing the fins.
     
  18. joeym

    joeym Jeannette & Joey @ Dunn's Falls

    How large is the gar? If it's large enough to get you hand into the carcass after the head is removed, you can remove a bunch of junk from that opening..possible all. They cannot be inverted, but the meat is mush, and they come clean easy with a little scraping. Removing the scales from an incision line would seem to be challenging, since they are put together like a Sherman tank.
     
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  19. rbear

    rbear Well-Known Member

    I don't think they are big enough to reach all the way down to clean them. I will try and maybe I can get by with a shorter incision at the rear. 2017 longnose[1].jpg
     
  20. joeym

    joeym Jeannette & Joey @ Dunn's Falls

    You won't be able to do much cleaning on that one once the head is removed. The largest one I've done weighted 65 lbs.