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Use Of Klie And Smooth On 20

Discussion in 'Molding and Casting' started by RichMO, Jul 31, 2019.

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  1. RichMO

    RichMO Well-Known Member

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    I just did a second cast on making a new pheasant head. My last castigs i used epoxy sculpt for final and wattles. The one I'm working on is a spring mount (larger wattles of course). Im thinking of using Rick Kranes product Klie. Has anyone been using it and if so what on.? Let me know what you think. Does it set hard and sandable....how long before lit can be sanded......usual questions. Thanks Rich.
     
  2. RichMO

    RichMO Well-Known Member

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    No response on the Klei so I'll ask another question...... RTV for mold casting. Smoothon 20 is less than $100 while GI 1100 is $150 (including shipping). Ive used Gi but not the Smooth on 20. Looking at getting a gallon but would like so input. Thanks
     

  3. Frank E. Kotula

    Frank E. Kotula master, judge, instructor

    Ok I’ve done talked about at other shows and here some thoughts.
    All I use anymore is Klei for all my epoxy work.
    I use 90% rubbing alcohol to smooth it out. It’s VERY STICKY only drawback per say. It’s strong, sets up in two or less hours depending on age and heat. ( I take small amounts out and I don’t cover it. Makes set up time faster or heat it up prior to mixing lol to much and you’ll have a rock in your hand lol.
    As for silicone I like as for tin mold max 30 and for platinum I use fast set dragon skin.
    Tin is great if I’m just going to be pulling out numerous pulls ASAP but one pull here another a month from now etc then it’s platinum for the longevity. JMT
     
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  4. Rich I'm with Frank on this one. I really like the Klei, stickiness and all, but hit it with alcohol and its not so bad. It blends very well and and accepts paint relatively well. (Though I seal all my plastic and epoxy before painting) I use it for all my finish work now that I have gotten used to it. All new products have a bit of a learning curve.
     
  5. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

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    Ok guys this is the first I’ve heard of Klei
    From what I see it’s a epoxy that sets faster?
     
  6. Frank E. Kotula

    Frank E. Kotula master, judge, instructor

    Clew where you been as Ricks been selling it for quite awhile now and it’s been talked about on fish here a lot.
    Yes it’s an epoxy that’s way better than what’s out there but again JMO
    It’s like the ole Libby’s commercial if you try it you’ll like it like it like it lol
     
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  7. Lance.G

    Lance.G Well-Known Member

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    Yup good stuff. Faster set and smoother texture.
     
  8. fishmaster

    fishmaster Well-Known Member

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    I have not used Klei yet. I'm guessing you cannot use water to smooth it out like you would with epoxie sculpt. The faster setting would be helpful at times.
    I often mix equal amounts of apoxie sculpt and magic smooth (or down to 72/25 )for a product that smooths like glass with just water. Just mix up a ball of apoxie sculpt and a similar amount or slightly less of magic smooth mixed up. Then blend the two together. The magic smooth is sticky stuff so a tool is required for the mixing of both. Once mixed and troweled on a wet finger is all that is required.The magic smooth changes the consistency of the Apoxie and the stuff blends and smooths nicely.
     
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