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What Do You Charge For A Deer Head

Discussion in 'Deer and Gameheads' started by 13 point, Sep 13, 2019.

  1. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    Sorry about that. I didn't intend to cause confusion. I just figured I'd continue along the same line as the generic question of what do you charge for a deer head with the same type of a question on shop rates.

    Thank you for responding. Your shop rate is about the same as mine was.
     
  2. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

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    This is nothing against you , but with that attitude your right you will never get $800 for a Deerhead. Look at it this way a decent form these days cost $70 eyes $15 ears $7 hide paste and clays $5 screws , paints and other materials $ 10 that’s $107 in basic supply’s . It takes most 1 hour to skin a head off or cape out and saw antlers off . You pay yourself $25 a hour that’s $132 then 2 hours to flesh that’s raw fleshing and finish fleshing that’s $50 your now at $182 . Tanning sending out or doing it yourself it’s still bout $35 with materials so now your at $217 and you haven’t put in elec , insurance, shop rent , even if your doing it from your house/shop in back it needs to be added . Then sanding or prepping form , eye in and detailing it 1hour 1/2 $ $37.50 now ur $257 .50 and you haven’t mounted deer yet . I have 4 1/2 hours mounting deer that $100 so now your $357.50. Then I have 1 1/2 hours for the next few days adjusting eyes, ears, grooming and such that’s $37.50 now we’re at $ 395 . Then 1 1/2 hours to finish it for pkup so now your at $432.50 . That’s just cost , Again you haven’t added in rent , elec , insurance, advertisement, or profit. And your only paying yourself $25 an hour and you have to take out taxes and SS or you will have Uncle Sam coming after you and no SS retirement money. So if you take that out your bringing home $15 an hour not much more then working for MCDONALDs . This is why a deer head is worth $800 and I’m worth at least $75 an hour . This is not directed at anyone directly just an example
     

  3. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    Could you please give your brake down of how many hours you have in a deer head and your cost , thank you
     
  4. KY_Trapper

    KY_Trapper New Member

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    I'm in Kentucky the closest guy to me charged me 350.00 and it took him over a year to get it dun and this what it look's like I wasn't happy let's just say the least his show room didn't look like this.
     

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  5. KY_Trapper

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    450 is a good price around here if the work is better than I got. I started mounting my own after that experience. I mounted my cousin's deer and their happy with it I told them flat out I just starting out so don't expect top notch. Here's a few pictures of there deer
     
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  6. Lance.G

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    DD9338C0-59B1-4C50-B8DC-1417CF8D5DF9.jpeg 6D0286E2-3880-4A8E-91E9-0AD255B0146F.jpeg For a standard shoulder mount I charge $600. I am in South West Virginia. I do it part time for people I know. I don’t advertise. Here’s a pict for the last one I did. I would like to do taxidermy full time one day.
     
  7. Fallenscale

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    I didn't see where you added in shipping charges on materials.
     
  8. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    100% correct and I’m sure prices on some things very a little, but I’ve been doing this for 34 years and I know some are faster then others but I have 10 hands on hours on each deer head from the drop off time to the pick up finished time , it might be 15 min to an hour here and there but when I add it all up that’s bout the time I have for what I do and the product I put out . Most don’t do Taxidermy as a business and add in there TIME , they say a form cost $70 if I charge $400 man I’m doing good , that’s not how business works but if there happy to work for penny’s have at it . Everyone should add up there cost , materials, shipping, tanning, deduct that from your price you charge for a head then take what’s left and divide that on the hours you have in it . That’s what your making by doing it on the side , not paying taxes , or elec or anything else that should be added in and of course no profit , some think profit is what you pay urself, that is so not true . Profit is what you have left after paying for everything , to include labor , if it be yourself or a helper . Sorry not trying to preach to you all , just trying to help all see what your worth . After you figure out what you make an hour ask your clients if they would work for that , I garuntee your mechanic, plumber , electrician , truck driver won’t . Again sorry if it sounds like I’m preaching, just asking you guys to look at it in a different way especially you part timers . Thanks for reading and listening.
     
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  9. Fallenscale

    Fallenscale Well-Known Member

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    I think this is a great topic. When I read someone charges $350 for a deer head I shake my head how can't they afford that. If it a taxidermist first year and he thinking this will get me noticed and bring me in heads to gain experience is the only way I can see that price Justified and many will argue on that. Not saying everyone needs to charge $800 there come a price point where the hunter paying for excellence in taxidermy.
     
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  10. Richard C

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  11. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    No sir that’s great , this is more directed to part timers looking to become full timers , and thanks for your service
     
  12. Richard C

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  13. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Don't go there. I have a pension as well but it damned sure never interfered with being a businessman.
    A couple years back I hit a deer that destroyed my grill. Since the headlight covers were weathered, I asked the cost. She said $350 for the right, $250 for the left. That would be on top of the $1000 deductible. I went online and found the exact lights for $35 each with preset light bulbs. So why the difference? BUSINESS!
    Remember all the bitching about McKenzie buying up all the suppliers and jacking prices up? Well, fast forward. Those contracts are expiring and now those same small companies are coming back. It sure seems that THEY became educated on conducting business. Their prices are now in line with McKenzie.
    Pension or no pension, you're screwing yourself AND YOUR FAMILY. Your clients have the allegiance of a crack headed hooker. So you absorb the costs of doing business from your family's income. While your clients are taking fancy vacations, you're taking your family to a taxidermy convention. While your client has his family at the lake fishing and picnicking, you're busting your ass clearing your backlog and begging them to come get their mount. While they head to deer camp and opening day, you're clearing floor and freezer space and figuring how you'll manage 16-18 hour days and praying you and your family stay healthy. While they are out enjoying the holidays, you're still on the phone begging them to pick up their work so you can buy your kids Christmas gifts. While they're out partying on New Years eve, you're still in the shop caping deer. If you want to know how indebted they feel towards you, raise your price $25.
     
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  14. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Then you're a part-timer. When I was full blown, I did just what I described. I was a one-man show with 100+ pieces a year. I usually hunted opening morning but never got out afterwards due as much to guilt as it did on work waiting for me. And nothing changes about cheating your family if you're not passing 100% of your costs along to your clients.
     
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  15. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    So just out of curiosity how long ( hours ) does it take you to do a deer head from skinning to finishing it and out the door .
     
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  16. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    Your shop rate should include every single little cost it takes to do business. Materials, parts, services, shipping and time it takes to mount it are added to that.

    I supplemented my full time taxidermy business with a full time job at a sunroom solarium company. My wife did not work. Before I went full time and was 20 to 50 pieces a year, I ran it like it was a full time business. I don't understand at all, the statement made that since it's part time and not going toward the bills, that it doesn't have to make a living wage.
     
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  17. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    Because this is a web site that is designed to help other taxidermists become better taxidermists and that includes the business side of it. We would like to see all on here thrive and understand they can make an above average living at this.

    I really don't care how much anyone on here makes, however, I would like to just put it out there that some taxidermists could benefit from some of these examples.
     
  18. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    Would you post a pic of one of your customers mounts ( Deerhead) please
     
  19. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    5 1/2 hours pretty well sums it up for me.
     
  20. Richard C

    Richard C Well-Known Member

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    5 1/2 hours , can anyone say DP.
     
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