my brother built me a stand that has two 7inch steal rods welded to the top of it. legs are welded on the bottom. i push the deer down on top of it going through the bottom of the neck to the back of the skull. i cape the front of the head down as far as i want to go. flip the head around and push the nose of the deer through the two spikes.(this is why i do this first. so the nose skin is out of the way with out damaging it) then i skin the rest. and now you can cut off the antlers. the stand will hold it. its made for my seating hight. works great.