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Cost Of Shipping Kills

Discussion in 'Fish Taxidermy' started by Pikeonthefly, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. Pikeonthefly

    Pikeonthefly Active Member

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    Just ordered a piece of blue foam and some glue from one of the taxidermy supply businesses. $113.00 bucks with the new additional tax. Total price after shipping $208.00. That's $90.00 for shipping. I did not order a barbell set or a slide for a swimming pool. I order a 3 foot piece of lightweight foam and a non explosive quart bottle of adhesive and I thought I asked for the cheapest delivery. I am glad I only do this for a hobby and for myself. Unreal!

    At Sotired. You and I live in the same state. I used to get all my foam from Styro materials. Do you happen to know if they are still in business or do you have any other suggestions for buying blue foam?
     
  2. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    Very True! And none of the major shippers are reliable anymore. The thing that gets me is UPS and Fed Ex increased their rates drastically when fuel prices shot up back in 2009 including fuel surcharges, and never brought them back down when fuel prices went to record lows a few years later. But then again why should they as they are an oligopoly with no real competition.

    Case in point, Bob, I didn't tell you about how things even got crazier with UPS after I shipped your first batch of frozen fish. LOL For those of you that don't know, I shipped a couple of boxes of frozen trout to Pikeonthefly in Colorado at the local UPS terminal counter. Had an account but haven't used it for years as I prefer to ship at the counter as it's cheaper (counter guy is too lazy to measure the boxes so just underestimates their size). And sometimes their software on my computer didn't seem to want to work right.

    Anyway, so I just got done shipping PikeontheFly's fish along with about 6 other boxes to other customers all over the U.S. On the way home from the terminal I stop to get gas and I'm looking at the printed receipts. I realize that the fish to PikeontheFly in Colorado are actually going to some guy with the same first and last name in South Carolina! (remember I did not do any of the computer work or computer labeling -- it was all done at the counter.)

    To make a long story short, boxes are redirected back to me from SC after many phone calls and passing the buck and pretending to be ignorant of how to fix the problem. Once I got the fish I put them back in the freezer (they are still frozen after three days) and UPS overnights them to Pikeonafly the next Monday. ( I was told it was on their dime due to their mistake.)

    I soon get a bill in the mail from the account I haven't used in at least 3 years for over $700.00. It's a bill for what I paid for at the counter, the rerouting and the overnight shipping. After some more phone calls I was told it was taken care of. Nope. Only partially. They still show a balance of $179.00 and there is no explanation for balance on the bill including new charges for rerouting.

    Supposed to have a balance of $0.00 now after more phone calls, but I will believe it when I see it. As soon as I can verify the bill is zero in writing I will cancel my account with UPS that I never use!

    Used USPS recently with no issues. Got three boxes of frozen fish to Utah and Texas in three days Priority Mail at half the cost of UPS! That said I can tell you stories about USPS and also Fed Ex. It seems as they rates go up their service gets worse. I know it's Russian Roulette with all of them with a perishable product.
     
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  3. Pikeonthefly

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    Holy cow Cecil. That's unreal! Even after all that the fish still got to my home in solid frozen condition and they are excellent. I have skinned one Brown and I opened up a Brook over the weekend and I was amazed at how beautiful it was. I appreciate the pictures you provided but they do not do these fish justice and I mean that in a good way. Never seen so much color. I want to brag them up all I can for your business but at the same time I'm wanting them all to myself. Great fish! Due to minimum wage increases in my state I now have to pay around $7.00 for the same ol cheeseburger. The size of the burger did not change and the service provided to get it to me didn't either. Pickup trucks still start around 50k unless you want a Chevy and they are quite a bit more and home prices keep going up. I haven't seen a raise at all but I have to pay at both ends now. If I ever go back to working for myself in the construction business your going to pay. Boy are you going to pay.
     
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  4. Brad Hendrickson

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    Shipping is RIDICULOUS
     
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  5. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    Funny thing is there's no reason that hamburger should hae gone up to $7.00 even with minimum wage going to $15.00. I saw the breakdown on what it would do to the price of a Big Mac and it was't that much. Apparently McDonalds et al are using it as an excuse.
     
  6. h20halo

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    Do they tell you at the taxidermy houses what shipping is going to be before you place the order? Sounds like they are using it as an enormous profit center. I can tell you I shipped a box of water samples that weighed 27 pounds from michigan to pennsylvania overnight and it was 31 dollars.
     
  7. Pikeonthefly

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    Nope. You place the order and the page says you will be billed separately for shipping and that will be calculated when they fill the order. Then the surprise. I did reach out to the supply house and they never replied. That's ok. My laziness cost me this time. I have located a phone number for Styro Materials here in Denver and will be calling them tomorrow. I would suggest those who provide manikins for the industry reach out to Amazon and sell their products through them. At least they offer free shipping. Seems like this particular supply house isn't really concerned about their customers. I would think they should be able to work something out but doesn't seem like they care to do so. This site is a great place to go to save money. Lots of options and lots of help here.
     
  8. Brad Hendrickson

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    THEY DO NOT
     
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  9. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    I have a feeling PikeOnTheFly is talking about Quarter Pounder Meal or Big Mac Meal Deal because that's the only thing close to $7 bucks (that I could find) according to a random sample of menus in states or cities that have already implemented that $15/hour deal.

    However, on another note I think something is severely wrong with this country when some zit faced kid with zero skills can make $3 or $4 bucks an hour less than some of our states starting teacher salaries where a 4 year degree is necessary. Simply stated, that's messed up...
     
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  10. Brad Hendrickson

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    YOU aint kidding!!!!
     
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  11. h20halo

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    That doesn't sound above board to me
     
  12. Pikeonthefly

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    Do you have a 5 Gents or a Smashmouth Burger in your community? (not their real names)
    How many times have you driven up to the window at a fast food place after ordering for a family of three and after paying thought to yourself "for this price I could have had a real sit down meal"? Your not getting out of either one of these places for under 30 bucks and you get a dried out piece of beef smashed to the point there isn't anything left. Then its placed on a wrinkled a.. bun/put in tin foil and then rolled like a snowball before its placed in your bag. I'm all for a minimum wage increase. It's needed for sure. But shouldn't we all get one? Now let's all head down to the local coffee shop and pick up one of those 16oz chocolate coffees that cost well north of 5 bucks.
     
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  13. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    I cannot remember the last time I was at Mickey D's or any Fast Food restaurant for that matter - other than the sub samich places. I'm already in "husky" pants - ha!
     
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  14. joeym

    joeym Jeannette & Joey @ Dunn's Falls

    An old sage named George Roof once said "I don't pay shipping charges, my customers do". To some degree that is true, but it sure hurts to see enormous shipping fees. I weigh the shipping cost against going and getting it myself. Every day of shop time I give up is at least $500 in lost gross income. I cannot justify giving up two days of shop time to go to another state for supplies...regardless of the volume.
     
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  15. Mudbat

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    Depending on the fish size, if its a replica i charge the customer just to get the blank to me. For the most part i can ship a finished large mount for the same price as mckenzie will charge me to ship a tiny light wieght box full of say eye blanks
     
  16. Sotired

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    Sorry, I just saw this. I haven't done any skin mounts since the '70s! I did use Styro to get foam, but haven't used it for so long I have no idea if they are around anymore.
    EDIT: Just checked Google, Styro Materials is still listed on E. 45th Ave, (303) 286-8907
     
  17. Pikeonthefly

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    Thank you Sotired! I am going to call them next week!
     
  18. Multispeciestamer

    Multispeciestamer Active Member

    You can not compare a "5 gents" to a "Mc' D" lol. Of coarse their burgers cost more they are a up scale "fast" food place. And they are damn good too. I love a smashed fresh burger on a flat top grill. And those fresh cut natural fries.... so good. But again "5 gents" isnt really fast food. It's kinda in between fast food and a sit down. Ive never seen one with a drive through least not around me. So I'd say you're barking up the wrong tree on that one, as plenty of us are willing to pay that cost for a superior product. But it's not a place I eat at regularly, once a month maybe at the very most.


    As for the shipping cost topic I agree 100%. The company I believe you are talking about are outrageously high majority the time, and seems like they could work out a deal with a carrier.
     
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  19. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    Yes 5 Guys is not really fast food. My wife and I have been there once. Great food, we just don't have one near us. Well, I'm a bit overweight but I was BY FAR the skinniest person (besides the workers and my wife) when we went inside - lol! Probably 25 very heavy people! AND, I saw something I have NEVER seen before. A couple came in and the woman was SO heavy she came in on her motorized cart. Her husband, who himself was BIG. Probably 6'9" and guessing 500-550 pounds. Well when they brought them their food and the woman opened her burger (in foil if I remember correctly) and literally rested her burger and fries on her BOOBS! She'd take a bite and set her burger back on her boobs and grab a few fries/repeat. We realized she was SO heavy she couldn't reach the table if she wanted to. And when she wanted a sip of her drink her husband had to grab it from the table and hold it up for her! OMG the whole scene seemed surreal and very bizarre! I thought for sure we were getting "punked"!
     
  20. Brad Hendrickson

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    WOW... i have to laugh cuz i just had an exercise bike delivered yesterday to my house. along with some pan pastels and createx lol
     
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