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Discussion in 'Deer and Gameheads' started by 13 point, Sep 9, 2020.

  1. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    Act like your going to post something and it should take you from there . Thanks
     
  2. msestak

    msestak Well-Known Member

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    the sign up link is at the top just below the baboons elbow, in the orange bar :)
     

  3. Robert Baker

    Robert Baker Active Member

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    Both those guys are correct crab.. I put another sign-up link in the menu bar at the top for those that might have trouble locating it.

    Robert
     
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  4. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    I'm sorry, but ALL these new taxidermy sites tend to be mutual admiration societies. I see the same things on most of them. Someone posts a picture of their mount and everyone gets all moist. Very few (compared to the whole number posted) look good but NO ONE dares to tell that person his mount sucks. The majority of advice given there is from experienced professionals.

    Few of you have any idea what the original Taxidermy.Net brought to this industry. What you see here is but a shell of the magnimity it once held. In the beginning, Bill Yox and I advocated that sex, religion and politics be censored. Then a rabid liberal, Cecil Baird, cried long enough that Ken relented. There was no pictures or video capability but the homepage had an orange "search" icon where any previous subject that had been discussed could be quickly and easily cross matched.

    But the the "I love me" pictures began and to point out inaccuracies made you "bitter" and mean. Guys like Ken Walker, Stephan Savides, Matt Thompson, Dennis Harris, Michael Schlabach, Harry Whitehead, Fred Vanderburgh, Rick Krane, and dozens others simply lost interest and went away. I kow Frank Kotula is still here and I'm not sure if John Creagar is but for the most part, those who made this site have moved on.

    I feel sad that most of you missed the Golden Age of Taxidermy.
     
  5. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    George I couldn’t agree with you more , and is why we are pumped about T-T , we want it to get back to the teaching and sharing of our trade . I’ll say this , if you put 20 experienced Taxidermist in a room and ask a question you will get 20 slightly different answers but in the end the answer will be the same For the most part . That is what we want to get back to . This sight has gotten to the I don’t give a CHIT point with most and it’s a shame , things are taking place and those things I don’t feel should be put out there as of now . We want TAXIDERMY-TALK to to bring our trade to a point it’s helping the new Taxidermist move forward and keep the trade going as us older ones retire. With the imput and post by all that can happen. That is what is trying to be accomplished here .
     
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  6. livbucks

    livbucks Well-Known Member

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    Fakebook and Twittler is when the exodus began. It wasnt people posting their ugly work.
     
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  7. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    No it didn't. That was simply an easy excuse. 13point is exactly right about the 20 people but for a far different reason. Taxidermists simply don't play well together. Those of us who love it have a difficult time admitting the golden age has past. Museums disbanded their taxidermy sections almost 20 years ago. Animal Artistry is about the last of the large enterprises left that only do taxidermy, yet their turnover of people is astronomical. Most shops are sole proprietor while a few contract work rather than hire employees. Many larger shops are family affairs.
    The internet was a haven for taxidermy hacks and wannabes. The gained quick fame by extolling their shifty methods on videos that hungry beginners flocked to and many became disheartened. Top that with a sudden interest in European mounts. Environuts began "Catch and Release" which brought about reproductions. Reproductions brought about mass production imports. Traditional "full service" taxidery has been dead for decades.

    Some years back when I sat on the board of the NTA, I researched the scant sources we had and the best I could find was that there are about 80,000 people filing taxes as taxidermists. Of those, nearly 30 000 quit each year but are usually replaced by newcomers.

    If you read Melissa Malcolm's book. "Still Life: Adventures in Taxidermy", she chronic0les how this industry is littered with groups with high expectations but limited lifespans. Some will say I'm a naysayer, but I'm a pragmatist. Most of us who love this, die trying to find that pot of gold but they know, in reality, it's simply love what they do.
     
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  8. msestak

    msestak Well-Known Member

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    i always wondered why taxidermists charged so much just to a shoulder mount or a small squirrel...so i got into it as a hobby.
    it was like getting slapped in the back of the head, that little light came on so fast, i immediately understood and wondered why they didnt charge more...lol
    i stopped when the children came along because i worked out of the basement and garage. the fumes in the house just were not healthy for us or children. i won a few awards and almost got bumped into the master category with my first ever bird mount, a hanging dead grouse. 1st place best of category as an amatuer put me in the pro division where it took a first place and lost best of category by 2 points :) that same year, 1993 i took best all around taxidermist at the PTA convention, you had to enter a mount in 4 categories and each mount had to take a ribbon.....i was the only one at the convention that year that entered in all 4 categories...LOL :eek: but i won :)..HA, i heard they changed the rules after that

    i agree, taxidermy has drastically changed over the last 30 plus years and i dont think its coming back. way to much info being shared and a ton of "hobbyists" are popping up. i suppose its a good thing but its hard as heck to make a good living and work 40 hours a week doing taxidermy. you men and women still doing it have my respect and those of you who paved the way and made it the art form it was and is today have my respect, thanks and gratitude...GREAT JOB !!
     
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  9. Robert Baker

    Robert Baker Active Member

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    Wow congrats Msestak. Great story -- thanks for sharing it.

    Robert
     
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  10. Robert Baker

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    Hey Everyone!!

    If you find yourself bored this weekend www.taxidermy-talk.com just started their Guide Contest on Oct 1st complete with a little spending money as first and second prize.

    Check it out!

    Robert
     
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  11. Keith

    Keith Well-Known Member

    None of the message boards are what they were.

    The traditional and primitive bowhunting sites I lurk at, are shells are what they were.

    Magazine sales have been in decline for years.

    Facebook and you-tube have made a major impact on all that.
     
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  12. pir^2h

    pir^2h Retrievers give you the bird

    I have tried a couple times to register but I must be doing something wrong. Just now I tried again and I got an error code: Error code: 1F176/3 What does this mean?

    If you are interested in making the site a true taxidermy site don't have current events board! I don't go on that anywhere as much as I used to. Too much drama! I simply don't have the time for it any longer. My life, family and students are much more important than current events that are hashed to death!
     
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  13. pir^2h

    pir^2h Retrievers give you the bird

    George, my work isn't the greatest and I know it. I am not offended if someone says it needs work. How the hell is someone supposed to get better if they are not told their work sucks and what needs to be done to fix it?!

    My wife always tells me my work looks great but is it because she doesn't know any better or because she is backing my hobby? Who knows! She had been honest a couple times and told me the faces on my mammals are jacked up as she called it.

    I have posted on here to get help and I got it from great people, including you George. Even if you don't know it you have helped me through helping others when you have answered their questions! You are right though, this site used to be better but times change and not always for the better.
     
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  14. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    I think Current Events serves as a way to keep the "drama" and politics out of the taxidermy threads/topics. I have been on sites that don't have a Current Events page and a no politics policy. The mods have their hands full policing the topics because politics keep creeping in.
     
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  15. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    Not sure why you are having such a hard time trying to sign up go to the page there is a baboon , just under his left elbow is a 3 line mojo , tap on that and you will see the sign up button if you will tap on that and follow . Hope that works if not pm Robert Baker on here to help you get there. Lol
     
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  16. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    I just did it with no problems, EXCEPT, the confirmation email went to my junk mail. Good thing I check that also, because I can't trust my computer to know the difference as it has shown me time and time again.
     
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