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Deer Form Size Trouble

Discussion in 'Deer and Gameheads' started by Nick1176, Jan 19, 2021.

  1. Nick1176

    Nick1176 New Member

    I have a mature buck to mount but he was extremely skinny when he was shot. His eye to nose measurement is 7 3/4 heavy, almost 8 but his atlas measurement is only 20 1/2-21”. Most forms for a 7 3/4 face have an atlas measurement of 24ish. My question is their wiggle room on the nose measurement? The 7 1/2 forms have the perfect atlas measurement can I use them? I was told the eye to nose measurement can fluctuate 1/4” but can it stretch a little farther? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
  2. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    Look for what they call early season forms , or alter the form . Add to face or deduct in the neck . That said a 1/4 inch won’t be noticeable and will work. Matter of fact I’ve measured some forms and there eye to nose measurements were off by 3/8 sometimes.

  3. Nick1176

    Nick1176 New Member

    I was looking into the early season forms but they have limited poses but I’ll keep looking. I’m hesitant to alter the form to much as this is only my 7th deer mount and don’t want to hack it up and waste 80 bucks. Thank you for your input as always
  4. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    I always went with the neck measurements and altered the nose. I usually didn't worry about altering the nose if it was less than a 1/2" difference.
  5. 3bears

    3bears Well-Known Member

    1/2 inch bigger in the face is not a problem in most situations, slack in the face is good at times.
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  6. TripleC

    TripleC Member

    I know TT and 3Bears won't steer you wrong, but have you considered a form with a change out head? Minimal work compared to altering the head/nose that comes on the form that fits your neck/atlas size. Spoke to Ben Mears about this very subject last year at our convention.
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  7. brianmrusher

    brianmrusher Active Member

    I mount a lot of deer with a 7 3/4” nose on a 7 1/2 and I don’t have any issues. A change out head would work great if you want the exact measurements
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  8. Lance.G

    Lance.G Well-Known Member

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  9. Crittrstuffr

    Crittrstuffr Well-Known Member

    You will loose some of the bulk so to speak going down that 1/4 ". A buck with a 7 3/4" e-n is a different critter than a 7 1/2" e-n. Same as a buck with an honest 8" e-n measurement has a wider nose, roman nose, deeper forehead, wider width between the eyes and just a big old buck look to them. You can always down size and make it work but you'll loose that big buck look. Change out the head and put him back to what he was. It's a task like altering the form you'll need to know sooner than later. Good luck
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  10. BO-N-ARO

    BO-N-ARO Hunt hard but hunt safe!

    If the deer was “skinny”, measure the cape. He could loose muscle but the skin will be the same.
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  11. livbucks

    livbucks Well-Known Member

    That neck skin will stretch out if shaved properly. If it was a mature buck he stretched it out several times over the years of his life already.
  12. Trophy Specialist

    Trophy Specialist Well-Known Member

    I would rather order a smaller face than a bigger neck in your case. Its pretty easy to build up the snout a little, but it is also easy to shave off a little from the neck. I'd probably order a form that would split the difference.