I decided to get a cast lip red fox shoulder mount. What a mistake. The lip doesn't even line up with the bridge of the nose. I contacted McKenzie customer service and they forwarded the photos and e-mail to their tech team who says it is the right piece for this fox. When you pay $155.00 bucks for something you expect it to fit somewhat. I got the DVD with them using the cast lip on a bear and they say, "Light sanding may be necessary." McKenzie, this is a defect in the system. It should not be off by this much. And I can't return it because I already prepped the form assuming it would all go together as designed. Thanks a lot. I probably won't be getting any more cast lip products from you if this is the best you can do. I have the lip pressed up as far as it will go. I didn't expect to have to start cutting the form and sanding this much.