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Tucking Tips?

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by akhenenra, May 4, 2021 at 8:24 AM.

  1. akhenenra

    akhenenra New Member

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    Quick question with (hopefully) a simple answer haha. All the manuals, etc emphasize that you should cut the lachrymal and lip slots as narrow as possible to avoid the skin popping out, it looking unnatural, etc. looked from instructions like you just slice it with the knife and that's it. However I did just that (basically just made a slit only), and found I couldn't push the skin in when mounting. My tucking tool alone is too wide to fit. I ended up breaking through the skin more often than not. I had assumed the form foam would have more give to push it in but this form is extremely hard. I guess "thin as possible" means "thin as you can get it with space enough still to tuck the skin", is it as simple as that?
    Very first mount, I'll be back on here for critiques so be gentle lol
     
  2. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    This is what I do , I have a , what they call a lip tucking tool , it has a angle on one end and a smooth Blending kinda thing on the other. I’ll take a pic of it when I go out to shop . I walk that around lip/mouth area making a slit then I take a pcs of 50 grit sand paper folded in half put in slit and walk it around, it opens it up just a tad . Then I use a 4 inch all to tuck lips . The biggest and main thing is use lots of hide paste in slot and retuck it for the next few days .
     

  3. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    I used a jigsaw blade with the set sanded off imbedded in a file handle with epoxy. I always opened the lacrymal with a lip tuning too before I mounted it. I'd force clay into the slot a put a line of clay in front. I gently tucked the gland the set a 3 inch japan pin bent in an "L" to hold it in place. Then I shaped the gland through the hide to give it a puffy appearance.
     
  4. drob

    drob Active Member

    I usually make the first cut with something very thin,then something a little thicker and then run the cut with a small portion of my lip tucking tool.The wider opening at the front makes it easier to start the " tuck",and the smaller gap holds the skin tight/along with the sanding and glue.
     
  5. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    If you tuck hair to hair, the hair usually will cover any slight gaps. I did my lacrymal crease skin like the lips. I cut it off so there was about 1/4 to 3/8 skin beyond the hair line so that there was not all that skin to deal with. It mad them easier to tuck into a thinner slot and I NEVER had any pulling on me and NEVER fought putting them in and NEVER needed a filler.

    Of course, I thinned the area super thin, like plastic wrap thin, used plenty of hide paste and used clay around the slot to shape for the proper look.
     
  6. akhenenra

    akhenenra New Member

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    thank you everyone @Tanglewood Taxidermy @drob @13 point for these tips, it's really helpful. Definitely could have had a thinner cape as I did this one by hand and first attempt. definitely understand why ppl get fleshing machines. But it sounds like I should make the slots a bit wider as well. Good tip about the clay, thanks @George
     
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  7. GP1419

    GP1419 Member

    Don't use a fleshing machine on these areas, I use a cone and a skife knife to thin these areas, it doesn't matter how thick the hide is you can thin the lips and tear duct area real easy with some type of fleshing ball or cone and the s knife, also I use a lip tucking bit offered by Mckenzie it fits in a dremmel tool and is simple to use, use the small one, they offer 3 sizes I think, it is not in their catalog you will need to do a search for it on their web site and it will pop up, I think they are around 10 bucks each, it has a small shank and a large head on it so the slot is wide down inside but narrow on the surface, that way the extra skin has somewhere to go when you push it in the slot and is designed to hold the lip in place while it dries.
     
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  8. byrdman

    byrdman Well-Known Member

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    1/8” dremel bit is not too big..and go big at corners fill slot with caulk or clay and liis tuck easier
     
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