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Replica 1st Attempt

Discussion in 'Fish Taxidermy' started by Jward1010, Sep 4, 2021.

  1. Jward1010

    Jward1010 New Member

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    I had a first attempt at a replica today. I think I should have more white on the gill and less green across the top. I sprayed wet look gloss on top but it still looks dull. How can I fix this and what else do I need to change?
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  2. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

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    First off hope you have tough skin and take what folks throw at you,
    This repo is terrible, head is almost like a carp.
    Next get you some good reference pics
    Is this a fiberglass or a plastic repo?
    If it’s fiberglass strip it down and start over
    If not try stripping some on back side, if it eats the plastic, white the fish out
    Reset the eye, and study the colors on your reference get a color wheel if needed,
    Learn to use your paints, blending and mixing, not going to hit subject of which type paint to use.
    I know some of the best in the world fish guys that use both types.
    Your gloss can be put on fairly heavy then hit with a heat gun
     
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  3. Jward1010

    Jward1010 New Member

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    I want the hard truth. I bought this replica from vandykes and I thought the same about the head. I believe it was ARPS. I do not do fish taxidermy at all so this was the first try the whole way around. I am glad to get any feed back. Thats how we learn right!. would you suggest a different type of gloss? I used polytranspar laquer paints. Would you suggest lifetone or something else. I am going to give it another shot.
     
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  4. Jward1010

    Jward1010 New Member

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    Original Arps Replica
     
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  5. Richs Taxidermy

    Richs Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    The head wouldn't be bad if you wouldn't open it up that much and had better eye set,apoxie blending in tail needs work,fin setting is bad,buy Rick Kranes DVD on perch he covers alot of info you need, we all learn from trial and error,keep working you will get there.
     
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  6. Jward1010

    Jward1010 New Member

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    I know the clay needs alot of work. Thanks for the advice
     
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  7. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

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    You can fix the head cut it off grind off the negative and you can roll from thier
     
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  8. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

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    And the pec fin needs proper alignment
    This is where reference pics are so critical
    Look at the finite details and not the whole fish
     
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  9. WLELTD

    WLELTD Active Member

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    compare that to a live or fresh fish and see what you think, like everyone says reference , I wouldn't waste time on that fish ,I would buy a good blank and look at fish don't make stuff up
     
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  10. Jward1010

    Jward1010 New Member

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    Would it be worth priming and practicing the paint until the new blank comes?
     
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  11. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

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    This blank would be good for practice since your beginning
    Don’t waste money on another blank when your learning
    I use lacquer paints, brand not important
    Powders, micas ,ashes, cosmetics
    Anything really to achieve the desired look I need
     
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  12. msestak

    msestak Well-Known Member

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    yes it would !
     
  13. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    Everybody's first baby is an ugly baby to varying degrees depending on one's background and previous artistic experience - if any. Keeping it simple, my advice to you would be to look closer. For instance, take a look at your reference pic(s) and your replica and that first "stripe". First off, you'll perhaps notice with your reference pic that it isn't a perfect stripe at all. Is it in the right location on the fish? How far does it go down? Note the "stripes" unique shape. Also note the probable gaps within the "stripe". How many stripes and how much spacing between each? Does that spacing change a little? Do some stripes come down farther or less? Slow down and really look at your reference photos and try to approach the whole fish this way by breaking things down. Then look at it as a whole. The stripes are easier to break down because of their definition. But it's a good example of how to break down areas. Whatever works for you. A digital eframe or laptop can help too to zoom in on and break down sections. You need to take a step back and take the time to see what you're missing and don't be in such a hurry to show off your baby! PS What's the the bead weld at the tail base??? Lol. Sorry, but you need to blend that better (reference!). Don't worry about the open mouth much. IMO perch always look stupid open mouthed! It is what it is there...
     
  14. Jward1010

    Jward1010 New Member

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    I know the clay work is horrible and absolutely will be better next time around. I have to much everywhere I put it. I didn't repaint the whole thing but changed it a bit while I am waiting on a another blank. I appreciate all of the advice and feed back.
     
  15. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

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    Post us a pic
     
  16. Mudbat

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    The fin sets that come with a arp blank are always way to small. That spiny dorsal would work great on say a 8 in long perch! Paint and apoxie work is pretty rough. Pec fin is located just fine. Is it a pleasing position? No, but perch do fan their fins like that all the time. Specially when they move backwards.