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Please Don’t Think I’m Crazy

Discussion in 'Molding and Casting' started by trophycase, Sep 26, 2021.

  1. trophycase

    trophycase Active Member

    I need a one use mannikin. I don’t care anything about ever using it again. Can I take my carcass freeze how I want it. Pull out put in a container and pour two part foam around it. Gently cut in half. Put the mold back together then pour two part foam in it to get get my mannikin.
    I know there are better ways. For sure cheaper ways. My only question is will this work? Will be a deer shoulder mount. If it works and I like figure I’ll fiberglass mold it. Thx in adavcance. KT
  2. crablover

    crablover Well-Known Member

    No, will not work
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  3. Joe Kish

    Joe Kish Well-Known Member

    You' re asking if you can pour a foam form from a foam mold. Don't waste your time or money on all that foam. Since you have no experience with mold making of any kind, you will not be successful at what you're asking, and it's unheard of to pour a foam form in a foam mold, you must first learn the principles of mold making and what particular molding materials, like plaster or fiberglass to get the kind of results you want. You're trying to shortcut a process that can't be short-cutted and still produce a usable mannikin. Either buy a ready made form or learn to make a proper mold.

    Get a back issue copy of Taxidermy Today, July/August 2020. There's an article titled "Squeeze Casting - An Old Technique on page 29. (Ph. 800-851-7955). It explains how to mold a carcass from which you can produce a form in foam or paper. If you intend to continue in taxidermy, you will have to school yourself up, educate yourself before you decide to make or save money at it.
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  4. trophycase

    trophycase Active Member

    I can make a proper mold.
    I know how to mold and cast. I know the materials to use. I have just not done it on this level. I make my own noses. Mouth cups. Etc. and I have carcass casted (once). But thank you for your response. I will proceed with carving and sculpting and seeing if I can get what I desire then I will run with it from there. Everything is appreciated
  5. Jerry Huffaker

    Jerry Huffaker Well-Known Member

    Yes you can, When you get your mold cut off in two pieces, sand the inside a little to smooth things out, spray glue cellophane inside your mold, duct tape your two halves back together and pour 3 lbs foam in it. make sure you have a big hole to pour the foam in so it can rise out. this isn't a mold that will pressure up it needs to run out a little. Pop your two halves apart and pull the cast. I will be very rough and you'll need to work it but it will work. I've done several competition pieces this way. You might get a couple of pulls but it's going to most likely a one off.
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  6. Steve Rotramel

    Steve Rotramel We got some radical rebels in this county!

    What about the hair Jerry? And the frozen. Will the foam set on the frozen surface?

    I’ve used depilatorys to de-hair mammals and make plaster casts, but never had good luck with the hair on.
  7. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    You can basically do the same but use bondo
  8. Jerry Huffaker

    Jerry Huffaker Well-Known Member

    He asked about a carcass cast , that would be after you've skinned it.
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  9. Steve Rotramel

    Steve Rotramel We got some radical rebels in this county!

  10. trophycase

    trophycase Active Member

    Thank you Jerry. I should have just text you. Lol

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  11. msestak

    msestak Well-Known Member

    aren't all manikins a "One use" thing ?

    the hide is put on the manikin, the animal is mounted on the manikin and then given back to the customer as a completed mount. the manikin never gets used again.

    i must be missing something.
  12. 13 point

    13 point Well-Known Member

    The one off he is talking bout or means is the mold for the casting . He will only get one pour off of it , as it will be destroyed or damaged as he gets the form out of it .
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  13. msestak

    msestak Well-Known Member

    Thank You...i havent finished my coffee yet when i read this :)

    (thats my story and i am sticking to it)
  14. Jerry Huffaker

    Jerry Huffaker Well-Known Member

    You can get more than one pull from an foam mold if you are careful
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  15. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

    York, SC
    I have done this with a 16 lb density foam
    Then when pulled from carcass clean it up, sand smooth and fix needed areas
    Wax wax and wax then wax again
    Then I add my wire clam and pour 4 lb density
    Relief hole is Necessary
    You can get a couple pulls
    Important note is wax the halves everywhere multiple times
    Wax wax wax
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