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White Crappie Critiques

Discussion in 'Fish Taxidermy' started by yote20, Jun 13, 2022.

  1. yote20

    yote20 Member

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    This is a crappie I caught 15 years ago. I just dabble for now in taxidermy. The fins busted off. This is first time doing white crappie. So I replaced those with lake country fins. It's still in progress. Just looking for pointers and critiques at this point. I think I've brought the dark color down the sides to much. Should I strip and start over? Reference pic attached 20220613_202208.jpg 20220613_202155.jpg 20220613_202141.jpg 20220613_202127.jpg 20220613_202105.jpg
     
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  2. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

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    Use a little vine charcoal and darken up the spots then soften
    Need better blending at fins
     
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  3. 3bears

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    I don't really see a reason to strip it but it does need some finishing touches. First thing is do what clew suggested. If you click on your reference pic, it will expand and you will see that the scales on the reference pic are outlined, if you will. This can be somewhat replicated with a macro pearl powder or makeup. Apply the powder and gently wipe it off of the top of the scales and once you achieve the look then a flash coat or to of clear to seal it in.
     
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  4. yote20

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    Can you guys give me some pointers on these fins? The tail is bugging my like crazy. The dorsal is too but not as much. Still working on the bottom fin. But will take any help there too. Thanks!
     
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  6. Clew

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  7. Clew

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  8. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

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    Your too dark and sizes are all the same
    Look close at these pics
     
  9. yote20

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    So how.woukd I achieve these colors? I tried just charcoal powder but I it was to light and transparent. Then I did powder and ceatex vile green but it was to green. Then I tried Paynes gray and powder but it was too blue. At that point I hit with transparent amber oxide which seemed to help but was still off. I guess what im saying is I'm having trouble getting the right color, darkness and soft look that all these fins have without being too transparent.
     
  10. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

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    I hit my fins lightly with thinned white, then seal, use my mask liquid for spot patterns, then candy Payne’s grey,
     
  11. Clew

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    Then lightly hit with vine charcoal and soften
     
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  13. 3bears

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    Use thinner or acetone and airbrush and low pressure to remove paint to make spots.
     
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  14. yote20

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    Thank you greatly for the info. How much do you then your white? 50/50?
     
  15. Clew

    Clew Help a child, Build our future

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    40/60
    But spray light or it will run away from you
    60 paint
     
  16. yote20

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    I want to thank you both tremendously for the help so far. I stripped the fins last night but have yet to reapply any paint. But I did notice some flaws with the fins and wondered if there was a way to fix them. Most of them are my fault from where I attached them but a few are how the fins arrived. I circled them 20220613_202127 (3).jpg 20220613_202105 (4).jpg 20220613_202105 (2).jpg
     
  17. Clew

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    Hit the fins with fine sandpaper
    Then wrap paper on small dowel rod and make the valley
    On juncture dermal tool with fine bit and CAREFULLY Work out extra
    Then sand
     
  18. 3bears

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    Even real fish ofen have certain defects with their fins. With a well done apocie blending and a good paint most wouldn't notice them
     
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  19. jigginjim

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    I was thinking could a black and candy Kayne's gray, be used above the top half, above the lateral line. To darken that area bit more, from over the head to the tail. Then bring in
    pearl-ex powders for the blue/green high lights.
    I'm doing a replica Black Crappie, but trying to find reference for inside the mouth. Looking gills and rakers, plus other details. Customer gave me three photos of the 16 1/2" real fish, they released in BWCA.