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Salt- Is There Too Much?

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by Rebekkah, Nov 28, 2022.

  1. Rebekkah

    Rebekkah Member

    Ok. So I now have three hides in the works all at the salt stage...

    question- instead of rolling these in a towel once salted and leaving them to drip dry... would it be insane to just literally fill up a 5 gallon bucket with salt and the hide fully covered in it? Like completely encased in salt to dry?

    Just wondering- the pressure washer fleshing does leave things rather wet :(

    thanks in advance!
     
  2. Rebekkah

    Rebekkah Member



    ALSO- follow up question

    How dry does it really need to be given that the next step is sticking it in a pickling bath?...
     

  3. 3bears

    3bears Well-Known Member

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    No rolling it up to fit in the bucket is not a good idea, it will have spots where the fluids collect and pool causing issues. Salt it and hang it to dry is the best way, then all fluids drip off, things such as full hides I will hang and rotate over a few days because the bottom will always dry last, once almost all moisture is gone I then fold up and prepare to either box up or wait to rehydrate and then into pickle. In your case I would salt for a couple days to pull out untannable fluids and start setting the hair, some may disagree with this first step but , it is how I do it, and then rehydrate do not stick a dry hide straight into pickle, rehydrate first and then into the pickle.
     
  4. Rebekkah

    Rebekkah Member

    WOW. Ok did not know about that.
    I was clearly mistaken hope I haven't screwed things up too bad.

    so by rehydrate you mean just wet it down again?

    does a 1 gal vinegar- 1 gallon water two lbs salt pickle sound accurate (that's what I read)

    thanks again for helping me in real time :D;)
     
  5. 3bears

    3bears Well-Known Member

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    When I rehydrate, I use McKenzie relaxer/degreaser following the directions. Ive never heard of using vinegar to rehydrate.
     
  6. Rebekkah

    Rebekkah Member

    no- that was the pickling recipe?...

    I'll order the re hydrator now!



    what do you think if this so far? is this what it is suppose to look like?
    I fleshed with a power washer and this is the second day of new salt.

    thank you for everything!
     

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  7. Rebekkah

    Rebekkah Member

    Also, I should have elaborated more. the way I read to do a hide with fur was to deflesh, salt, clean and resalt day two, then put into a pickling bath day 3 for 8 hours. After pickling- hang to dry, when dry- then paint/rub on tanning solution.
    I'm assuming this is the basic idiot proof way as I found it on you tube and also the back of the tanning solution I had purchased.


    I was unaware there was a step of complete drying and rehydrating.
    I'm sorry o_O
     
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  8. 3bears

    3bears Well-Known Member

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    Looks good. Drying completely is for storage and shipping mainly, a salt dried skin is lighter for shipping and can be stored that way for an undermined amount of time. Vinegar may be fine for pickling food but there are a host of better formulas for pickling hides. If you wish for professional results use what professional use, I know none that use vinegar on hides. If you bought a tanning cream off the shelf of your local box or hardware store, don't use it. They may be adequate to preserve a thin skinned small critter but not so much a deer hide. My best suggestion would be to order a tanning kit directly from a taxidermy supply company and ask specifically for what you wish to have as a final product.
     
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  9. Rebekkah

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    ok! Awesome!

    I don't want to ship it so it doesn't need to be 100% dry I guess.

    The formula/product I got is below- from Cabelas. I may as well use it on this one- as I have it and the hide is moving along fast. The other two I started, I will do with whatever I order today from the pros.

    thanks again- can't tell you how grateful I am- you're amazing!!!:rolleyes:
     
  10. Rebekkah

    Rebekkah Member

    Oops- pic attached
     

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  11. 3bears

    3bears Well-Known Member

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    You are welcome, I like to help when I can. Go ahead and use it, if you can't wait but, keep your expectations low. Use it as a learning experience and then it is not a waist. Good luck.
     
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  12. whitetails and fish only

    whitetails and fish only Well-Known Member

    If you use krowtann you do not need to salt the hide at all according to their instructions and if after tanning you use krow oil and work it into the skin you should get good results. You can salt a hide and then krowtann if you want but is not necessary. And yes your salted hide looks fine.
     
  13. Taylor Baker

    Taylor Baker New Member

    I am using the Mckenzie tanning and oil solutions... I got the kit and they included video. They suggested the same pickle - 1 gal vinegar 2 lb non iodized salt for each gal water and leave in 24-36 hrs.. Going to test it out within the next week or so.
     
  14. rogerswildlife

    rogerswildlife Rogers Wildlife Taxidermy Tommy Rogers

    I don't salt dry anything that I tan in house . Ruff flesh turn and straight in the pickle. One pound of salt per gallon of water one half oz of McKenzie safety acid per gallon of water. I have no issues at all doing it this way that info can straight from Paul Cale with Pro 1 chemicals.
    Tommy
     
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  15. 3bears

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    I sometimes do the same Tommy and it works fine but I typically salt and dry because critters or hides aren't taking up freezer space that way.
     
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  16. Do not put it in a bucket with salt. I did that starting out with taxidermy years ago and ruined a perfectly good coyote hide. It causes the liquids to pool and rots out the hide because it can't drain.
     
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  17. Bruledrift

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    I salt, not necessarily dry because they go in the freezer or I use relaxer/cleaner then in the pickle. I like putting a clean cape in the pickle and using the relaxer/cleaner gets a lot of crap out. I am confused though, Tayler, what McKenzie tanning kit are you using? I have not seen to use vinegar in anything that I have used of there's?
     
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  18. Taylor Baker

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    DSKD (mckenziesp.com) They include a video in this deer skin tanning kit along with tanning solution and oil. They said for pickle, for each gal water use 1 gal white vinegar and 2lb non iodized salt
     
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  19. Bruledrift

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    There ya go, guess I had never seen that stuff.
     
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  20. Taylor Baker

    Taylor Baker New Member

    I'm going to test it out within the next week or so, I can post updates on how it goes if you'd like