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Concern About Degreasing By Acetone

Discussion in 'Skulls and Skeletons' started by Ripple-tooth, Jun 7, 2023.

  1. Ripple-tooth

    Ripple-tooth New Member

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    I have been trying to degrease a skull I have with acetone because the hot water makes it fall apart it’s been around a year now and it doesn’t seem to be making much progress and due to how fragile the skull is I worry that the acetone could be damaging it and was wondering what the best way to fully degrease a fragile skull with out damaging it
     
  2. Tnrandy

    Tnrandy Well-Known Member

    Do you happen to have a dry picture of the skull? Are you sure it's grease. 1 year is a long time.
     

  3. Ripple-tooth

    Ripple-tooth New Member

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    From what I can tell the grease is imbedded very deep in the bones
     

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  4. Ripple-tooth

    Ripple-tooth New Member

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    I’m mostly concerned because of how loose the growth plates are
     

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  5. 3bears

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    Dry it out and then see if it is grease, it could be iron stains or it could just need whitening with peroxide. I may be wrong but I don't think acetone will harm the bone.
     
  6. Sea Wolf

    Sea Wolf Well-Known Member

    Acetone will not damage or interact with bone in any way so your skull is safe. I agree that you need to take it out and let it dry to see what you have. Acetone is not a miracle degreaser and I have found that it really only gets out a little (mostly oils) but that it does do something to alter the grease so that detergents can move it out better. Can't tell much from your photos because they are not clear and out of focus. Try taking it outside into better light and don't get so close with the camera. It may not be grease at all but iron/mineral stains. If it was a young animal, yes the growth plates will be very loose so as little handling as possible is best. Fortunately, they also glue back together very easily.
     
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  7. Ripple-tooth

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    Alright thanks for the help I’ll try degreasing it the dish soap way and go from there. My main goal is to preserve the skull and keep it in good condition
     
  8. 3bears

    3bears Well-Known Member

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    I've done just about everything from moose to domestic cats and have never used acetone alone, it is what I will use, at times to shock, if you will, stubborn grease into letting go and migrating on out and then back into degreasing with water and soap. I assure you that most that do this, want to keep skulls in good condition.
     
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  9. Sea Wolf

    Sea Wolf Well-Known Member

    I don't know what you have for a critter but don't use "hot" water. If it isn't a deer or sheep water temp should be 115 degrees. Below that it won't get the grease out as well if at all. Deer/sheep need a temp of 120 degrees constant. If your water wasn't heated before, this is why the grease just sat there.
     
  10. Ripple-tooth

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    The crockpot I have is around 165-175 at its lowest temperature is that too high for bones
     
  11. Sea Wolf

    Sea Wolf Well-Known Member

    Absolutely. You are making soup, not cleaning bone. That high of a temperature destroys the integrity of the bone itself. Boiling water is 200 degrees and you are not far off from boiling the bone. Bones cooked in a crock pot are going to end up being brittle and fragile. If you are cleaning the flesh off bones this way, you really have to be vigilant and remove them as soon as the flesh is off. It can be hastened by adding a couple of tablespoons of baking soda but you really have to monitor what is happening. Walking off and just leaving it to sit risks damaging it or outright destroying it.

    If for degreasing, yes, that temp is much to high.
     
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  12. Ripple-tooth

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    I'm worried that trying to degrease it any further(with the proper set up) runs the risk of damaging it would leaving it as is cause more damage in the long run or is leaving it as is a safer way to preserve it
     
  13. Sea Wolf

    Sea Wolf Well-Known Member

    The acetone will have had no effect other than to alter the grease a bit. What you could do would be to set it aside and let it dry out. The acetone will evaporate out of it in a very short time. You could take a look at it and see if you are happy with the way it looks. Possibly, all it will need is a touch of peroxide to whiten it if you want it whiter looking.