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Roadkill How to know if its useable.

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by Aces0vr8s, Jan 6, 2008.

  1. Aces0vr8s

    Aces0vr8s New Member

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    Im just begining and need all the specimens I can get my hands on, I was wondering how you know if a roadkill is useable or not. Also Im aloud to pick up pretty much any game animal off the road as long as my hunting license is valid correct? Rabbits Racoons Squirels things like that. But back to it being roadkill, here in iowa its pretty cold this time of year so how long can something be (for lack of a better term) "road kill" laying on the side of the road before its no longer useable in taxidermy?
     
  2. bulldog4949

    bulldog4949 "Mounting your Memories"

    where you at?

    In TX, you can't pick up anything!!
     

  3. Silverwolf5792

    Silverwolf5792 Sierra, my quarter horse :)

    I'd only pick up something if you knew it wasn't there yesterday...
    Also, I'd look up your laws for roadkill. In PA if you pick up a roadkill you need to call and tell someone from the game comission that you picked it up, and pay a $25 fee for it....
     
  4. kparks_hunter

    kparks_hunter New Member

    stop and see if its any good and if it is then throw it in the truck or car and as far as I know you dont need a license for roadkill and if its isnt mangled then its usable
     
  5. Don Jahner

    Don Jahner Well-Known Member

    usually good till about the third car,if truck pass on it.
     
  6. pyeager1

    pyeager1 Active Member

    General rules to follow regarding "roadkill". If the animal reminds you of a pretzel or if you see more red meat than fur, keep driving. If buzzards are sitting atop the animal, keep driving. They will pick the eyes out first with no regards for eye lids. Rabbits nine times out of ten will be skinned by the tire to some degree. Squirrels seem to fare a little better. Once you do find one that doesn't meet the first set of rules. Stop on the shoulder of the road, always turn on your hazard lights on for safety then inspect for "road rash". If you can't hid it or cut it out then leave it laying. Always expect "green belly" on the inside skins of fox, bobcat, coyote, etc. This usually doesn't present a problem. Remember! your after skin not bones so smashed skulls and broken legs aren't necessarily a bad thing. Follow these guidelines and you too can become a successful road kill specialist like myself. ;D
     
  7. elkevo

    elkevo Tailgate Bucks

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    Yeah, I think here in California, it's the same, you cannot pick up dead deer etc. But hey as the old road kill saying goes: From the "RoadKill Cafe", to some it become's very different thing.

    Center Line Bovine.......................$ 4.95, Tastes real good, staright from the hood
    The Chicken................................. 3.95 That didn't cross the road
    Flat Cat....................................... 2.95 Served as a single.... or in the stack
    Smear of deer.............................. 4.95 Late night delight
    Narrow Sparrow........................... 55 cents a taste of the wild side
    Road Toad Ala Mode...................... 1.65 taste on the wild side
    Rigor Mortis Tortise........................ 6.75 another great flavor on the wild side

    and many more special's that you kill it, we grill it from the "Roadkill Cafe"

    Enjoy your meal, it's a deal ! Cheap to eat.
     
  8. Lisa M

    Lisa M Swing like no one is watching...lol

    Smell it...does it smell bad or just dead? Pull the hair...if lots of it comes out easily, then no, not useable. If the hair that does come out, has small pointed black tips, that's bacterial damage, and I'd leave it. Is it damaged so badly that you just don't want to spend the time bothering to sew it up? Don't pick up owls or other birds of prey, or song birds. I live in Colorado. For coons & other small things, all we need to have is a small game & fish license. If it's a deer/elk etc, then we have to call the game warden & get a road kill tag.
     
  9. Aces0vr8s

    Aces0vr8s New Member

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    Im from Iowa. I take it it depends greatly on state. I suppose ill have to ask a DNR officer.
     
  10. Bobbi Meyer

    Bobbi Meyer I luv to ride my tricycle, I luv to ride my trike

    I shouldn't say this...but...I've just gotta
    Approach the roadkill
    Extend your right index finger
    Insert your extended index finger into the mouth
    If it bites it's not dead....leave it alone.
    If it DOESN'T bite approach the rear of the animal
    Inser your extended index finger into the other opening.. ( no, I'm not going to say it, there may be young eyes here)
    Withdraw your index finger
    If your finger smells like crap leave it alone..
    On second thought maybe you'd be better off taking Lisa's advice ;)
     
  11. joeym

    joeym Jeannette & Joey @ Dunn's Falls

    How long it can lay there and not be spoiled depends entirely on the weather. A mild day here in the south, with no sunshine means it will be OK. Add one hour of bright sunlight, and you have a mess. I take in a lot of specimens for taxidermy and tanning that are roadkill...primarily foxes, bobcats, and fox squirrels. If I see a nice specimen laying in the road myself, I floor the accelerator to get it out of my sight. I have skinned too many specimens for myself that I never did anything with...enough is enough. Seriously, roadkill is a good source of specimens for a beginner...just be sure to leave the hawks and owls on the roadside...they are illegal to possess, nationwide.
     
  12. elkevo

    elkevo Tailgate Bucks

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    About 4 years ago when hunting and driving to my favorite place before daylight came, I bet I counted about 30 dead raccoons along the highway. I sure did feel sorry for so many that had to end that way for them. That must have been a bumper crop of them critters. since then, I have never seen that many again. I didn't at the time think about taxidermy people using such things for practice, but now I see your point here on this forum talk.

    Steve
     
  13. pyeager1

    pyeager1 Active Member

    They were all chasing a hot road whore I bet! :D
     
  14. Lisa M

    Lisa M Swing like no one is watching...lol

    No Bobbi ya shouldn'ta said it...but I'm glad ya did!! The biting thing...that is a DANG good tip...other posts where "dead" critters came to life & tore up the driver...better to know before it's in the vehicle! [email protected]"other opening" & smelling the finger...this is why I keep latex gloves in my glove box. Ew ew ew.
     
  15. boarhunter67

    boarhunter67 Well-Known Member

    Some places, like here in California, you have to have a permit to pick up road-kill. The permit costs $30 and is good for one year.
     
  16. elkevo

    elkevo Tailgate Bucks

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    boarhunter67; oh ok, that's nice to know, does that cover picking up anything domestic or wild ?

    Steve
     
  17. RoyalOaksRanch

    RoyalOaksRanch Royal Oaks Taxidermy- When Quality Counts...

    IN California they changed the road kill laws years ago... You can not get a permit to pick up road kill. You cant even touch it if its in season.
    Speak to the Lt at Fish and Game. Calif it is illegal.
     
  18. pyeager1

    pyeager1 Active Member

    Wow! I can't believe some states restrict someone from picking up roadkill. What is their philosophy on this? Doesn't it cross their mind that picking up roadkill does them a community service by getting the animals off the road? Or do they think the person is "stealing" wildlife or getting them for free? Most of the states mentioned it doesn't suprise me. In those states you can't even $hit in your own toilet I bet.
     
  19. RoyalOaksRanch

    RoyalOaksRanch Royal Oaks Taxidermy- When Quality Counts...

    Well I asked the same thing... Reason is seems that there was some propblems with little dinky toyota and honda cars with great big brush bars... Apparently a certain ethnic group decided they liked their road kill fresher.. they were running down critters on purpose..
     
  20. pyeager1

    pyeager1 Active Member

    Really? What did they do catch two people doing it so they deemed it a major problem and passed some stupid law to stop it? When will the idiots that make these silly laws like that realize that all they do is punish the innocent because too the outlaw or thug hunter it doesn't matter if its legal or not to run over the deer in the road or to shoot it from the road. They're still gonna do it legal or not legal. These lawmakers set on their fat asses and think if they pass a stupid law all activity is going to cease! Outlaw their big brush bumpers except on the farm or ranch, that would make more sense than forbidding one from picking up roadkill and maybe being a good steward by cleaning up some of the animals on the state's highways. I would say that 99% of all road kills is unintentional in most areas. Glad I don't live in some of those states. Road kill is not a major part of my taxidermy business, but I enjoy having the right to stop and pick something up if I choose too.