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Ugly Babies

Discussion in 'The Taxidermy Industry' started by George, Sep 5, 2006.

  1. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    I know that many of you nerds have been orgasming over the ability of this new forum to post your pictures, but I'd be remiss (in fact, I'd be UN-Georgelike) if I didn't tell you that many of you should think long and hard about that feature before using it.

    Nobody ever fathered or bore an ugly baby to hear them tell it. Yet we all know there are UGLY babies out there. No one ever had phone sex with an ugly person. The voice on the other end of that line can be anyone you want it to be, but few of us want to experience the letdown of that voice not matching that fantasy.

    I see The Taxidermologist even wondering if the picture on my posts was actually me. (Sorry, I'm not Robert Redford nor even Dan Rinehart as one person thought I was when I had the one of me in uniform on there).

    BUT, some of you are posting pictures of your work on here and I truly hope your ego is stable enough not to be badly brusied when someone gets frank and truthful with you and tells you that your "baby" would make a buzzard puke. I've seen of OK work and I've seen some questionable work and I've seen some horrific work and inevitably, someone will be real nice and say, "Good Job." But there are some really REALLY ugly babies on here. And no, I'm not going to venture out and tell you which ones they are, but PLEASE don't ask me to critique some of it unless you can stand the truth. In the meantime, I'll just look and snicker to myself quietly.
     
  2. EJ

    EJ Proud Member of: Unaffiliated, Free Agent

    I'm "Glad" to see you finally got here George! Man, I was starting to worry. You haven't had much to say since they started the new forum. But now I can rest because I know all is right in the universe! Thanks George.
     

  3. KevinH

    KevinH Active Member

    Yea George Thats why the picture of the buck in my avatar is small and far away so you cant see whats wrong with it, ha ha. Also, not that its a bad thing, but your picture isn't what I pictured you looking like. I guess you just get something in your head and then see them and they aren't what you thought. Sorry if it sounds bad, I don't mean it that way. Anyway, that ugly baby in the picture I got 3rd with a 78 at the PTA show last year, I know now what needs worked on though.
     
  4. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    Dan Rinehart!

    <img src="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_11_6.gif" alt="SmileyCentral.com" border="0">
     
  5. Cecil, you need to move the link a little ways away from your laughing dude. He keeps hopping along when I click on the link and it won't work. Takes me to smileycentral.com. and I don't think that's where you want me to go. ;D
     
  6. Western Rivers

    Western Rivers Wolves are Idaho's #1 Poacher!

    George, your right! You are the best and most others are second rate! So go ahead and "sniker" and laugh at others work, but rember you were once a green horn too! Blows me away how you can be so arrogant about others work! Unbelieviable!
     
  7. joeym

    joeym Jeannette & Joey @ Dunn's Falls

    George...how long do you think it'll be before someone wants to know how to apply a skull to a panel on the new forum? The suspense is killing me...LMAO!!!
     
  8. catman

    catman Active Member

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    George, you have too much time on yer hands.Didn't your momma teach you not to judge a book by it's cover.It's what's inside that counts.
     
  9. EJ

    EJ Proud Member of: Unaffiliated, Free Agent

    Who keeps "Smiting" me? I've been playing nice!
     
  10. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member


    George,

    I was wondering how you apply a skull to a panel?

    ;D
     
  11. Dean

    Dean New Member

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    I agree with George 100%. I noticed the "nice job" on many photo posts and wanted to speak up. But I kept silent for now while I figure out this new forum. George spoke up first so I'm following his lead. If they want an honest opinion on their mount should get it. That is the best way to learn how to improve. If they are looking for the pat on the back to stroke their ego, forget it.You don't get better from that and you don't learn to improve that way. You eventually just end up with a pissed off customer and bad reputation for poor work. That is the main reason why I get on here is to offer what I know and help out when I can. I've been helped along the way many years ago and learned a lot from others and worked hard to get where I'm at. I feel I need to pass it on and help the new guys out there like I was helped 23+ years ago. Just like a competition critique you need to learn from mistakes and not get upset. If you ask- what do you think ? we should be honest and tell you, with out putting you down. Take it in stride and learn from it. Sugar coating gets you nowhere
     
  12. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member


    Evelyn I'm still figuring out how to post the emoticons from my browser with an http link vs. just an img. A little rough around the corners right now.
     
  13. Western Rivers

    Western Rivers Wolves are Idaho's #1 Poacher!

    It's one thing to give an honest opinion when asked, but it's quite another to COMMENT about how you "quietly sniker" about others work!
     
  14. Skywalker

    Skywalker Well-Known Member

    It will all be worth it if they take our advice and come back later with an improved mount.When I critique someones work I always try to find something I like about it before I level the bad news.You have to admit though,the photos make it a lot easier to put things in perspective!
     
  15. Wow, Cecil! Forget the picture of George Bush. That picture of you guys is a classic!
     
  16. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    Thanks Jan. I can't believe that picture was taken 16 years ago!
     
  17. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    The problem arises when you give an opinion that is not asked for. IMHO the only other situation where a critique should be given is when it's being judged in a competiton. Other than that you are asking for hurt feelings, bruised egos, and an all out brawl.

    And past history has show there are folks here that just like to bash other people's mounts just to be mean. Some of the worst of those bashers never post their own work. Hint, hint.
     
  18. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Cecil, you're RIGHT! I HAVEN'T seen any of YOUR work on here. What's the deal and since when did you play nice with anyone's work? I recall some pretty disparaging remarks about Paul Borkowski's work and how you challenged him that fell through. Maybe you'd better clarify your remarks.

    Lee, I fear thou protests too loudly. I snicker when people tell me how beautiful Picasso's work is, or when they tell me how lovely the voice of Bob Dylan is. I even snicker when they tell me that I sure got fat and ugly quicker than most people my age. I never saw you defend me when those things were being said, so why the sudden disdain. Putting an average or below average mount in front of a professional backdrop won't make the cover of Breakthrough. Does anyone tell Larry Blomquist that as an equal opportunity he should have shots of average or below average work gracing his magazine? DAMN RIGHT I was a beginner who did crappy work. I STILL DO CRAPPY WORK, but I have enough objectivity in its quality not to impose it on others so they can snicker at it with me. It's truly amazing the number of people who are easily offended by the truth. Contrary to what Cecil implies, I've NEVER given a vengeful critique of any picture sent to me. I just don't have rose colored glasses and those of you who do aren't doing any justice by painting a picture where none is deserved. But then again, that's just what I expect from parents who have ugly babies.
     
  19. catman

    catman Active Member

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    George,a lot of people post their work to show it off.If they ask for opinions it should be considered fair game.If not , you are certainly free to snicker.However, snickering in public could give you bad karma.Just because you like to brag about how crappy your work is doesn't mean you can snicker without consequences.
     
  20. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    George,

    I've posted pics on here from the get go before you even showed up and ever since. You know better.

    And as usual your memory is not quite accurate regarding Paul. Paul challenged me. The work I made fun of was not posted on the taxidermynet either. (You do remember we couldn't post pics on the previous site?) And it was a rework of someone else's mount he was selling on ebay. I do regret my comments but after he challenged me to compete against him at the world show, someone sent me a pic of that mount and represented it has his work. It wasn't anything to write home about, but like I said, he did the best he could with a rework and was just trying to sell it. Very good considering what he had to work with and Paul is an excellent taxidermist.

    George please don't preach to me about cutting others down. You are the master. And you have the proud distinction of being the first here to stir things up. I hope you're proud of yourself.