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Discussion in 'Tanning' started by javelinstorm, Feb 27, 2008.

  1. javelinstorm

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  2. Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    It won't work. Use DP or even borax. Brain tanning is only useable and waterproof if smoked. You'll have bugs dining on the squirrel in no time also.
     

  3. cyclone

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    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    It will work. The problem is that in order to produce a tan worthy of taxidermy quality it takes an awful lot of effort. Braining actually contributes little other than the fatliquering step(oiling). It is indeed the smoking that tans the hide.

    Every aspect of the tanning process involves some kind of chemical. Brain matter contains chemicals, smoke contains chemicals. Even the water you'll be washing the skins in is a chemical..

    The simple truth is that most experienced taxidermists here will tell you to use dry preserve for your squirrels. Others have had success with denatured alcohol pickles. A few may tell you to pickle and tan the hide with a brush on tan..

    There are many different paths to take. Brain tanning would be one of the most difficult for beginners.
     
  4. jasonb

    jasonb I think I'll keep her

    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    glycerin is the chemical in brains that tans the hide smoking is just for water proofing I have brain tanned hides before and it is very hard work I hope your up to it.
     
  5. jasonb

    jasonb I think I'll keep her

    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    and I forgot it is not reccomended for taxidermy. More for clothes and display hides it takes all of the memory out of the hide.
     
  6. cyclone

    cyclone Posts: 400001

    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    Glycerine tans?

    Glycerine in the brain?
     
  7. jasonb

    jasonb I think I'll keep her

    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    yes
     
  8. J. Ivy

    J. Ivy New Member

    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    I always thaught it was lanolin in the brains, Hmmm
     
  9. cyclone

    cyclone Posts: 400001

    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    But you're rubbing brains back in...isn't that memory? ;D

    No glycerine in the brain...only fats..triglycerides that may be converted if conditions are right. Glycerine is an alcohol, no tanning properties..
     
  10. cyclone

    cyclone Posts: 400001

    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    20 mule team borax, in the laundry det. section will preserve a squirrel hide good enough for mounting.

    Believe it or not you can get a lot of chemicals at wally world that can be used for the tanning process as well.

    I am impressed with your knowledge of brain tanning at your age.
     
  11. msbraintan

    msbraintan New Member

    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    I used an alum taw/tan recipe for treating these coyote skins that I learned on braintan.com. How good or bad is it? You mean it might be/or most definately will be deteriorating after 20 years? Should I care a whole helluva lot?

    I don't plan on taking up taxidermy practices with either softening method. But I find all the products locally and very inexpensively. I do have some time involved in skinning these stinkin'coyotes if I do say so myself. I'm sure Rittles products would be much better but this is much less expensive and seems to yield ok soft skins.

    Looks like it's been eating smurfs huh? I think it would have looked better uncolored on the grownups coyote hat. Next time.. the guy didn't care I sure didn't overcharge for my labor involved.

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    I learned how to begin to assemble these hats from some of the comments you wrote on making the drape hats George, thx. I appreciated the info you passed on here about that. Once I assembled a quilted liner I just cut and sewed them to that and made a few dart and tucks and waallahh. Think it's good nuff..least according to what I've learned to do from reading braintan.com. I'm sure I'll be certainly corrected if I'm wrong.. or if Matt Richards is wrong for having a whole buncha happy horseshit on his Hideout forum. this should be interesting, seeing as I so love to stir up sh*t...go for it Cyclone. ;) I know I can rile you in a heartbeat, LOL. How's about it sweetheart.. am I going to get you hot reading this post??? hahahaha

    Paulette Joanne
     
  12. msbraintan

    msbraintan New Member

    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    What was that you deleted, Cyclone?
    "You need to get back on your meds and quit tanning with Viagra?"

    That was downright FUNNY.. thanks I needed that.. much more than drugs!
     
  13. humphreyjm

    humphreyjm New Member

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    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    I like Cyclone's suggestion that the smoke is what does the tanning. Would this be from the tanins found in wood? I believe you can tan with a water mix of wood ashes. It makes no sense to me why smoke would waterproof anything. It would more likely be the fats in the brain that did the waterproofing. Glycerine is the same as glycerol, an alcohol slightly similar to anitfreeze.
     
  14. cyclone

    cyclone Posts: 400001

    Re: Brain tanning for taxidermy

    AO, When you burn the wood all of the volatile materials are released. Tannins may or may not survive, but some of the aldehydes and acids certainly do. The ashes retain the basic materials, salts. This is why a mixture of ash and water makes a suitable bucking solution. It has a high pH.
     
  15. humphreyjm

    humphreyjm New Member

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    That was it, ashes are used to remove the hair, not to do the tanning. Thanks.