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Aren't most deer forms incorrect at the base of the skull???

Discussion in 'Deer and Gameheads' started by SCT, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. cht

    cht New Member

    A few words from the principle
     
  2. blackpup

    blackpup New Member

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    A yearling, My confidence level on this one is not strong. Monte
     

  3. I would say that if is about 10 months old
     
  4. SCT

    SCT New Member

    With the fat I'm going to have to say it's an old doe even though Bill hinted it first.
     
  5. Glen Conley

    Glen Conley KARMA GOOSE R.I.P. 2006-2006

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    I have good news, and I have bad news.

    Good news is SCT wins!

    Bad news is, no mule deer reference. Ever think about trying your hand at fox squirrels?

    www.whitetailsystems.com/TaxidermyReferencePhotos.html

    The rudimentary pedicle is that of an old, old doe. Even after aging the meat, she was still the kind that made tough gravy. 7 5/8" nose to eye, with out looking it up, she was either a 14" or 15" neck.

    Here's a shot of the head. Check out the asymmetry of the head where she doesn't have a rudimentary pedicle on the opposite side.
     
  6. SCT

    SCT New Member

    Awesome!!!! Whitetail reference is plenty good for me. I would love to have the close-up eye, nose, and whatever else comes on it. You really don't have to send me anything considering all that I've already learned here. Sounds like she was not just real old but quite large with that 7 5/8" n-e. That's the length of a mature mule deer buck. Thanks again Glen and keep the good stuff coming, Steve
     
  7. Glen Conley

    Glen Conley KARMA GOOSE R.I.P. 2006-2006

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    Semi-Sneeky Quiz #3!

    First correct answer wins a reference disk!

    What is the #1 common factor in these two photos?
     
  8. Greg Waite

    Greg Waite Active Member

    They are both bucks. Early season. Full velvet. Look to be the same buck.
     
  9. Shannon

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    Both are in velvet, and have thier nostrils flared.
     
  10. Glen Conley

    Glen Conley KARMA GOOSE R.I.P. 2006-2006

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    Dang! Dang! Double dang! That Greg Waite is not only sharp, he is major quick! Less than two minutes after the post was made, he just racked up another win!

    Yep, same bucks. One photo was taken in mid afternoon (b&w), the other was taken that evening as the sun went down. I did flip the b&w horizontal, both photos were the right side of the head. I was trying to be semi-sneeky, didn't work.

    While you're here, check out the head and neck unions on both photos and you can see how much that changes as the head and neck go up and down.
     
  11. livbucks

    livbucks Well-Known Member

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    I was going to say they were both in the same post, on Tax.net no less.
     
  12. SCT

    SCT New Member

    What is the muscle that runs vertical below the ear that you see clearly in the upright position but it almost disappears in the sneak position? Isn't it in front of or over the jugular? In my carcass cast head it starts out bulging at the top, just below the ear, but then it flows inside and creates a divit. Obviously when the head is extended from the neck joint with the sneak, there's room in there for that tissue to sink in. Great reference!!!
     
  13. Greg Waite

    Greg Waite Active Member

    "Sharp as a bowling ball" as ol' Foghorn would say. Thanks Glen. You actually gave me a really good idea for a reference tool Glen. I am leaving for the Bahamas in the a.m. but I will try to get in touch with you when I get back.
     
  14. cht

    cht New Member

    They can't be the same bucks , one is heading west and the other east
     
  15. Glen Conley

    Glen Conley KARMA GOOSE R.I.P. 2006-2006

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    The parotid gland is a salivary gland, that's the grayish, cheesy looking thing if you have ever cut into one, or cut one open. That's the spit supply source for the lama when he wants to spit a hocker on you.

    Cuzzin Ken had posted a photo of a buck with a swollen parotid in the reference section.
    www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,2627.msg21525.html#msg21525

    I down sized it and added to this thread for illustration purposes. You boyz show your manners and don't forget to thank yer Cuzzin Ken for helping to lead you off the pathway of ignorance..
     
  16. Glen Conley

    Glen Conley KARMA GOOSE R.I.P. 2006-2006

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    Uppity Hillbilly Dick Shun Airy

    zygomaticus muscle

    Yall's look at the pitcher down yonder.
     
  17. SCT

    SCT New Member

    Thank you Glen and Ken.
     
  18. cht

    cht New Member

    Thank you Glen and Ken.
     
  19. Glen Conley

    Glen Conley KARMA GOOSE R.I.P. 2006-2006

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    Refer back to the previous page and look again at the photos of the same buck in two different poses. These two statements should then make a lot more sense, if you haven't already figured it all out.

     
  20. SCT

    SCT New Member

    Glen, I think we're ready for more stimulus...